I don't get it. why hate or dislike the new player when its the front office to sign that player? being a "true fan", should he/she embrace and support the new player to play good to help the team to win, for the good of the team? and some true fans even say: I like him if he plays good, and I'll criticize if he plays bad? while players themselves cheering on and supporting each other during games? I don't really get what a "true fan" means.
People who think of Lin so highly are people who did watch him prove himself in NYC. How could a virtue-rookie prove himself any better than Lin did last season? He made the NBA record book last season for Pete's sake. The worldwide media attention wouldn't be there if he hadn't proven himself on the court. He broke out ON the court. He's not a product hyped up by Nike when he entered the league. There's no "Hello World" ad. Yet, some of his detractors still talk about he's all hype, he hasn't proven himself etc. The ignorant people are the ones who haven't watched him play last season, yet feel justified to put down those who did.
Agree. And I'm puzzled by the ironies: - On one hand, all these so - called long time Rockets fans complained that the media treated the team as an invisible small market team and thus, no free agents wanted to come. In the same breath, they complained about the huge media attention Jeremy Lin is continuously getting and the broad fanbase Lin brought to the Rockets and the Clutchfan. It seems to me you want the Clutchfan remains an exclusive club for a small group of long-time fans but you also want to be treated like a big market team. Sorry, you can't have your cake and eat it too. - The love for Lowry/Dragic is puzzling too. If your former PGs were that great, where did they lead your team to? No where. And last year's Rockets had more veterans than current team. There's a reason why Morey wanted to rebuild the team. He's not satisfied with mediocracy. Long-time Rockets fans also claim you're not satisfied with mediocracy, yet you want to keep last season's team or the major pieces from the last team. Statistically, Lin actually had better PER than either Lowry or Dragic from last season. And the most important reason why Les and Morey didn't mind eating crow by bringing Lin back is that Lin has been a proven game-changer in every level. He's the heart and soul of his high school and college teams. He turned around the Knicks' season. He has the clutch genes. The old receipe didn't work. Why not give the new receipe a chance? And if you want to hate on the change in receipe, why don't you blame the chef who came up with the receipe rather than the new ingredient he brought in? For anyone who said race had nothing to do with the hate on Lin, please explain why so many posters spelled Lin's name as "Lynn", "Linn" or "Rin". Is it so difficult to spell a 3-letter name? And why would posters call Lin fans "fan girls" or "Asian" or pick on Lin fans' typo? Maybe you can overlook all of those because it's not YOUR race that was being made fun of.
The thing is Harden has been here for 2 days and everyone compares him to Jordan. He can't keep scoring 40 points a night for the whole season (although it would be wonderful if he could). Lin dazzled everyone for 25 games and people are still asking him to prove himself? He just came off an injury and you hear "he needs to control the turn overs", "he needs to improve his shooting". I don't think people troll Lin because of other fans I think it's because they don't want to see Lin succeed so they can say, "I told you". Lin has a great 4 years ahead of him, which in turn will make the rockets a better team for the next 4 years.
I'll respond to these given I'm an Asian and a fan of the Rockets since the T-mac era essentially. I've found the original fan base reacts quite positively to all sorts of players, its generally newer posters from the 06 -07 era onwards that generate the most opinion (point it to a Gen Y type age group if you must, with Tinman being the exception). What you will need to understand is that Lin is not any of the following: Proven Prospect Young All Star Talent Track Record Free Agent The guy is not Dragic or Lowry who has had a long time to connect to the fanbase. I don't personally understand the lovefest with Dragic given he is like Lin and had a very limited window of success (and thus to me needs to prove he can sustain it like Lowry did and still does). You need to EARN the praise from clutchfans. People that I have seen earn it on this board: "basically anyone from the championship teams" "Yao Ming for being an extremely hard worker and superstar" "Scola for hustle" Shane Batter - Debatable People who won't earn respect on this board: People who quit - T-mac/Steve Francis AND get paid People who get paid and don't live up to their contacts(aka Rafer Alston) Now honestly from my perspective I think Lin is a young prospect, he needs to prove his a quality NBA player. If he can maintain even his out put right now for half a season I'd rate him. Fact of the matter is he hasn't and until then he will be judged. It doesn't help his been hyped (not by his choice) and by hype you only need to look at the GQ cover (seriously how many GQ covers has Tracy Mcgrady been on for example). He is a victim of his own hype and until he proves himself with consistent numbers he won't be beloved of this board of fan base.
Are you serious? Wow. Lin has already proven himself. Yeah he has areas of improvement as all players do. Lin has never called himself a superstar, that was the press. All Lin wanted to do was play basketball and become a better player, in which I have no doubt that he will succeed. Lin played well tonight. Yeah he struggled at times, but the whole team struggled. It really doesn't matter what Lin does, people will always try to pick things apart. BTW, I am African American, and I recognize the face of racism when I see it, and it is coming from the black community as well as the white community because people have actually bought into the hype, that all good basketball players are black. I see it in the way they treat President Obama. You know why, is because he doesn't fit in our image what a President is suppose to look like. Same thing goes for Lin, he doesn't fit the image of what a "good, basketball player should look like. So people need to stop pretending that I will give Lin a chance if he earned his salary. Let me tell you something, Lin earned that $25 million dollars for those 25 starts in NYC because of all the business he brought to NY, was influential in settling a cable dispute that was going on with MSG/Cable company for months. It was fun watching Lin play, and his salary was $700.000 dollars. Lin doesn't need to prove anything to anybody on this board, because the way I see it, you still going to dislike him until you actually deal with what is in really in your heart. ..Peace Out
WOW, triple props to you for this most excellent posting. I could not agree more. Really interesting how many forms Racism actually can manifest. Even people who think of themselves as non racists can have cognitive bias when faced with something unusual, contrary to their life experiences.
Yes, the poster really tells it like it is. I've often seen similarities between Obama and Lin (not in importance, obviously). Both are seen by some as affirmative action. Some want both to be "exposed" and humiliated. (This isn't about political differences, which everyone has the right to, just the irrational hatred part.)
This is an excellent post. I do get it. Lin is not only a role model for Asian kids, but also a role model for any kid who has been told that they are not good enough to play a sport. Lin's philosophy is quite simple, follow your dreams and don't let anyone tell you that you can't achieve them. Michael Jordan is a very good example, he was cut from his high school varsity team, because somebody told him, he wasn't good enough. MJ said that he had to work hard to become the athlete that he was. MJ said that he was no freak of nature athlete, but he did have a high IQ for basketball. I have no doubt that Lin will become an all around athlete that will learn to play many positions in the game of basketball. I saw it the other night when he had 10 rebounds, what PG does that? Yet still nobody gave him credit for that.SMH
Holy fruck this circle jerk I can't even Obama and Pacquiao, what in the fruck whatttt Thread went full r****d, it's like reading youtube comments all over again during Linsanity
Lin and Dragic have comparable numbers hence the b*tching. So who cares which one stays, neither is going to really win us a title. These guys are secondary players.
I've watched them play. The Rockets were a middling team, stuck as a 2nd tier team. Able to win games here and there but not in the conversation when we talk about 1st round playoff teams. Prior to Morey detonating the franchise. Dragic and Lowry didn't elevate or bring out the best in their teammates. Jared Jeffries, Steve Novak, Landry Fields - all got monumental salaries after last season. Why? cuz Jeremy was bringing out the best in his teammates with his teamball play. People say all the time that Steve Nash should be paid so much more for all the money his teammates have made by playing with him over the years. I'm a Hakeem Era fan and I was unimpressed and did not give a damn during the Yao Era, Yao didn't impress me or the -- can't come close to the playoffs era - that the organization went through recently. This is the first time since Hakeem was leading the Rockets to Glory that Houston Basketball is relevant imo. Not just cheering for people wearing a uniform but theres an actual future in post-regular season basketball. When after a loss - the Miami Heat go into the lockerroom and Lebron James starts reading off box score stats from a Rockets game - to D.Wade. You know teams are paying attention. Because your a THREAT.
