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Larry Brown BLEW it !

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by DaDakota, Jun 8, 2004.

  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Why did his team NOT foul Shaq or Kobe with 10 seconds left, and put them on the line for 2?

    Make it a FT shooting game when you are up by 3...take a page out of Rudy T's book in the Phoenix game.

    Larry Brown...you may have just cost your team a championship.

    Stupid !!!

    DD
     
  2. steddinotayto

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    same reason that JVG and others didn't--they got scared. if shaq or kobe makes 2 FTs. they woudl be up by a point with 7-8 seconds left. i think Brown thinks that his team can't put it away at the line or on another possession so that's why they didn't foul.

    or...

    he's just a dumbass.
     
  3. AGBee

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    But if the Rockets had Larry, we'd be swimming in rings.
     
  4. DaDakota

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    Terrible call.....you are up 3 and SHAQ gets the inbounds pass...foul him.......the worst thing that can happen is you are up 1 with the ball at half court.

    Terrible...terrible...terrible.....

    DD
     
  5. DaDakota

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    PS...I never wanted Brown..he was an arrogant A-hole when I was covering the Spurs at KSat 12 in San Antonio.....

    If Karl Malone wasn't on the Lakers, I would be rooting for them.


    DD
     
  6. sup123

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    i remember jvg fouled in the mavs game.
     
  7. canoner2002

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    cannot agree more. When Shaq got the ball, I was screaming "foul" but it was clearly not LB's plan.

    Lakers do get lucky a lot of times. :mad: They played like **** again but came away with a lucky win.

    Shaq is also getting very favorable treatment from refs. He clearly committed a flagrant foul against Ben but refs called a regular shooting foul. Then again, when Okur (he sucks) or Campell guarded Shaq, almost every fight for position sends Shaq to FT line. If they treat Yao like that, Yao would score 15 pts on FT line every night.
     
  8. KeepKenny

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    they should have fouled shaq as soon as he touched the ball before the 3 point play. Even if he made both freethrows, they'd be up 4 with 35 seconds left. I'm just not sure about fouling with a 3 point lead with a whole 10 seconds left. You know Kobe's not gonna miss many freethrows, and if your guy misses one, you risk losing the game in regulation. 10 seconds is a long time for a freethrow contest, but now that i think about it, the lakers didnt have any timeouts, so they wouldnt have been able to advance the ball. regardless, the real killer was the shaq 3 point play (even though there wasnt much of a foul on that one).
     
  9. steddinotayto

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    i wouldn't blame this on larry brown per se. The game I watched featured a Rip Hamilton that couldn't buy a bucket to save his life. Sure i'd excuse it if it was a bunch of 3 pters or some shots that were heavily contested, but they weren't.

    Always the same motion: Rip gets ball; Rip goes around the Pick and Roll; Rip drives into the middle of the lane for a wide open jumper/floater and basically no one guards him but wait....he STOPS AND PUMP FAKES

    NO ONE

    up in the air. so he's lost and just stands there in the middle of the paint. :rolleyes: :mad: :rolleyes: :mad:
     
  10. GATER

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    IMO, Ben Wallace had a brain meltdown and didn't react fast enough. And Rasheed didn't wrap Shaq up on the offensive put back. And Hamilton backed off of Kobe's three when the Lakers had to have 3. There's plenty enough blame to go around on this one.
     
  11. Hmm

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    I can see why MJ had him traded. The guy is the worst slashing, driving two gaurd I've seen. And for his size and weight, unbelievably slow, horrible footwork and has a jumpshot more inconsistent than our own Steve Francis.

    Why is Detroit giving him the ball so often again?
     
  12. sup123

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    i wouldnt say rip is bad. He is a good player, he is just really struggling right now.
     
  13. R0ckets03

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    Larry Brown is a freakin moron. Me and my brother simply could not believe why Pistons refused to foul. And to top it off the Fakers did not even have a ****ing timeout left. If the Pistons foul Shaq or Kobe with about 5-6 seconds remaining and even if the Lakers make both freethrows they would have about 2-3 seconds left without a timeout.

    If the Pistons lose this series Larry Brown should shoulder most of the blame.

    And Rip Hamilton thinks he is Kobe Bryant the way he jacks up shots out there. If Cuttino Mobley did that most of the fans would literally hire a hitman to take him out.
     
  14. Desert Scar

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    Plenty of blame, but A1 blame goes to Larry Brown.

    About the biggest coaching blunder in NBA finals history was not telling the WHOLE TEAM to foul Shaq with a 3 point lead with the Lakers having no TOS if he touched the ball. Further, there was only like 7-8 seconds left after the inbounds. The Zen Master was pretty dumb himself to let Shaq touch it.

    Unbelievable for a coach of Larry Brown's stature.

    Well summed up. The way the Pistons folded down the stretch and OT I just have a hard time seeing them winning this series. The Lakers are hard enough to beat, Detriot had them beat, barring a series of brain farts ending with the last one. Instead of the Lakers imploding, they have big mo now. Just shocking, and so preventable.
     
  15. carayip

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    He's a dumbass. I guess that's why he's never had any rings.
     
  16. steddinotayto

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    I believed all along that in order for the Pistons to contend, Billups had to go Mike Bibby on the Lakers and he has. Otherwise, this series would have been a joke. Rip got TOO much credit/attention for his play against Indy and i even bought into it. But honestly, he's doing a pretty good shrinkage job right now.


    Larry Brown...i'm just tired of bad mouthing him.
     
  17. rockbox

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    Larry is the most overrated coach in the NBA. Definitely more than Phil. At least Phil has enough rings to fill up his hands.
     
  18. ZRB

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    LA would still have won the series, even if they had lost this game.
     
  19. Red Chocolate

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    Whether or not you foul there is situational.

    When you have the opportunity to foul Shaq there instead of having Kobe shoot a 3, you always foul Shaq.

    When you have Rip Hamilton and Chauncey Billups as your primary guards, you foul, because chances are good that Hamilton or Billups will make both FTs on the other side of the court. You want to play the free throw shooting game when you are ahead 3 and your free throw shooters are better than the other teams'.

    Also, I wouldn't say that Hamilton *sucks*, he didn't even shoot that badly this game, and he has among the best mid-range jumper of any guard in the NBA.
     
  20. steddinotayto

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    He doesn't suck but he sure is missing A LOT of open shots from 15 ft.
     

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