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Kucinich on the move!

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Major, Feb 8, 2004.

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  1. Major

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    He said it was only a matter of time until his message resonated with the American people... :)

    In the last 2 days, he's gotten a pair of third place finishes in Maine and Washington, with a possible 14% or so in Maine! He's making his move....... :D
     
  2. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    He's got Kumentum!
     
  3. giddyup

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    He's the Pat Paulsen-Bob Denver of presidential politics!
     
  4. RocketMan Tex

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    I actually agree with Kucinich's stands on the issues more than any other candidate. Too bad he looks like Howdy Doody and sounds like Lucille Ball. Doesn't work too well in the age of photo op/sound bite politics.
     
  5. serious black

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    I don't care what he looks like or sounds like or how little chance he has.
    He is the only candidate I have contributed to and I am proud of that. In fact, as I type, I am sipping coffee out of my Kucinich for President coffee mug. I want him to last as long as he can. Sure, he aint got a chance in hell, everybody knows that. Except him. That's why I like him. Every leftie on this board knows he is who they should be supporting. Dennis or Sharpton. They're the only lefties running. (I would have contributed to Sharpton also, but he doesn't seem to think he can win. And I can't stand up for falling down).
     
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    That's awesome, dude. Far too often, we like only candidates who we think others will like. It's like junior high all over again -- the popular candidates are popular because they're popular. Or because they have a pool.

    If we voted for who best represents our politics -- instead of who looks best on MTV -- things would be a lot different.
     
  7. RocketMan Tex

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    Unfortunately, those times are long gone.
     
  8. El_Conquistador

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    I also support your commitment to values and principals. It is a shame that so many liberals have fallen victim to temptation and shallow analsyis by casting their lot with whoever Gallup or Zogby annoints the front-runner.
     
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    People want to back a winner. This is a trait of humans in general, not confined to political alignments.
     
  10. Rocketman95

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    Exactly. This isn't something unique to liberals.
     
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    If only more conservatives showed that same commitment, instead of blindly supporting the most fiscally profligate administration in a long, long time. I guess Cheney was right, deficits really don't matter.
     
  12. Batman Jones

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    Great post. Couple things:

    I believe Kucinich on just about everything. I don't believe he thinks he can win. I believe he thinks he should and I don't think he's in it to be cute. He's making a point and it's a good one. But I don't buy his line about a brokered convention for a second and I don't think he does either. And Sharpton's not falling down (or lying down - nice Elvis reference, by the way). He's not running for president of the US. He's running for president of black America. Granted, he's not doing as well as he'd like, but he's not falling down in his race any more than Kucinich is in his.

    Kucinich = Gary Bauer. Both true believers, neither panderers to electability. If Jorge wasn't a Bauer Republican, he's clearly a sellout. But we knew that.

    I'm a leftie and Kucinich is miles closer to my politics than anyone else in the race. So's Chomsky and they have about even chances of being the nominee. But I'm for everything you're saying. I've never voted for a candidate because they had the best chance to win and I never will. And the anointment of Kerry on those grounds is a case of the party selling its soul just like it did with the DLC and just like that other party did when they went Dole over Bauer. The funny thing is you were with Dean until he lost his shine and then you were with Kerry, however briefly. Glad to see you got Jesus on all that, but given your own struggles to find a candidate to support, surely you can understand why others haven't.
     
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    I am a liberal, and I happen to live in Massachusetts, so I guess Kerry would seem like the natural choice for me. And indeed, I think he's a pretty good candidate, though I really am not as optimistic about his chances against GW as some seem to be.

    But I agree with T_J's statement. After winning Iowa, Kerry took New Hampshire and has been pretty much cleaning up everywhere else since then (with the possible exception of SC and Oklahoma). You can't tell me everyone suddenly decided overwhelmingly that Kerry was the answer to all our prayers. It really is a case of following whoever everyone else is following. Or, in the negative sense in Dean's case, not following who everyone else decides not to follow.

    It just proves that people are sheeple. :(
     
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    not trying to add anything meaningful here, but there's a hilarious cartoon in this week's new yorker:

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  15. serious black

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    BJ- I was close to contributing to Dean. Not because he was my ideal candidate, but because he got me excited. As for Kerry, I admit I scrambled. When Dean looked to no longer be possible, I went for Kerry. And I felt very dirty doing it. And as Daniel Jonston says "I take it all back. I take it all back".
    I don't mean to knock lefties for supporting Kerry, Clark or Edwards. Personally, I couldn't do it anymore. But I will vote for the nominee. I will not be excited or proud, but I will do it. It is every American's duty to vote against George W Bush in November (and I think every Democrats duty to vote their conscience until then).
    By the way, I think he really thinks he can win. I don't think his people do, but I think he does. I think he loves running for president and I love watching him run. Read a great article about him (don't have a link) and it was all about how he lived in his car as a kid and didn't have any friends, but was sure that he'd be mayor of Cleveland by 30 and President some time later. And that he didn't care how much people told him he couldn't do it. The same article mentioned how he didn't really have any friends in Congress and was a "loner". That's cool, baby. He's living a dream and I want to support that. He's the little engine that could.

    But yeah, I don't believe in the brokered convention thing either. Think its kinda silly.
     
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    Whatever dignity Kucinich had left as a Democratic nominee, just went out the window. I can't believe he agreed to play The Dating Game on Leno. I was embarassed for him.
     
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    That was good but I think it applies more to Sharpton. No one is ever going to let him forget the Brawley case. Kucinich has been elected to office at least.
     
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    not should they. sharpton's presence in the race was/is an insult to the rest of the other candidates, and their refusal to call him on his history of racial demogaugery was an insult the the voters intelligence. all in all, not the democratic party'd finest hour.
     
  19. Batman Jones

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    Totally. He's much worse than David Duke, for instance.
     

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