Knowledge has no place...

Palin, Coulter, O'Donnell, Angle, Bachmann

Idiots all.

 

The Minnesota Republican called slavery an "evil" and "scourge" and "stain on our history."

"But we also know that the very founders that wrote those documents worked tirelessly until slavery was no more in the United States," Bachmann added, claiming "men like John Quincy Adams... would not rest until slavery was extinguished in the country."

Bad phrasing, but the point she was trying to make is that they tried to end slavery. She wasn't claiming that they actually ended it. This reminds me of Christine O'Donnell's "Constitutional gaffe"



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On 2 March 1807 Thomas Jefferson signed a bill abolishing the slave trade to take effect on 1 January 1808.

The majority of the Founders opposed slavery. There is evidence that James Madison, Thomas Jefferson, and John Rutledge, at one time, favored slavery. Jefferson, Writings, Vol. I, p. 28, from his autobiography; see also James Madison, The Papers of James Madison (Washington: Langtree and O’Sullivan, 1840), Vol. III, p. 1395, August 22, 1787; see also James Madison, The Writings of James Madison, Gaillard Hunt, editor, (New York: G. P. Putnam’s Sons, 1910), Vol. IX, p. 2, to Robert Walsh on November 27, 1819.

The Founding Fathers planted the first seeds for the recognition of black equality and for the eventual end of slavery.

Jefferson introduced a bill designed to end slavery, Jefferson, Writings, Vol. I, p. 4.

The ungodly, in an attempt to discredit the Founding Fathers, have rewritten history. Often, the ungodly will take real facts and give them a spin. For an ungodly person, this is not out of character, since the ungodly dogma of relativism says that lying is OK.

Many Founding Fathers never had slaves.
[M]y opinion against it [slavery] has always been known . . . [N]ever in my life did I own a slave. ~ John Adams, The Works of John Adams, Second President of the United States, Charles Francis Adams, editor (Boston: Little, Brown, and Company, 1854), Vol. IX, pp. 92-93, to George Churchman and Jacob Lindley on January 24, 1801.

Many Founding Fathers freed their slaves, for example:
George Washington
John Dickinson
Caesar Rodney
William Livingston
George Wythe
John Randolph of Roanoke

In 1774, Benjamin Franklin and Benjamin Rush founded America’s first anti-slavery society.
John Jay was president of a similar society in New York.
Other prominent Founding Fathers who were members of societies for ending slavery included Richard Bassett, James Madison, James Monroe, Bushrod Washington, Charles Carroll, William Few, John Marshall, Richard Stockton, Zephaniah Swift, and many more.
Based in part on the efforts of these Founders, Pennsylvania and Massachusetts began abolishing slavery in 1780; Connecticut and Rhode Island did so in 1784; Vermont in 1786; New Hampshire in 1792; New York in 1799; and New Jersey did so in 1804.

Rufus King, signer of the Constitution authored a Congressional Act, that George Washington signed into law, that prohibited slavery in Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Iowa. ~ Acts Passed at a Congress of the United States of America (Hartford: Hudson and Goodwin, 1791), p. 104, August 7, 1789. The Constitutions of the United States (Trenton: Moore and Lake, 1813), p. 366, "An Ordinance for the Government of the Territory of the United States Northwest of the River Ohio," Article VI.

I abhor slavery. I was born in a country where slavery had been established by British Kings and Parliaments as well as by the laws of the country ages before my existence. . . . In former days there was no combating the prejudices of men supported by interest; the day, I hope, is approaching when, from principles of gratitude as well as justice, every man will strive to be foremost in showing his readiness to comply with the Golden Rule ["do unto others as you would have them do unto you" Matthew 7:12]. President of Congress Henry Laurens, Frank Moore, Materials for History Printed From Original Manuscripts, the Correspondence of Henry Laurens of South Carolina (New York: Zenger Club, 1861), p. 20, to John Laurens on August 14, 1776.

Prior to the great Revolution, the great majority . . . of our people had been so long accustomed to the practice and convenience of having slaves that very few among them even doubted the propriety and rectitude of it. ~ John Jay, The Correspondence and Public Papers of John Jay, Henry P. Johnston, editor (New York: G. P. Putnam’s Sons, 1891), Vol. III, p. 342, to the English Anti-Slavery Society in June 1788.

He [King George III] has waged cruel war against human nature itself, violating its most sacred rights of life and liberty in the persons of a distant people who never offended him, captivating and carrying them into slavery in another hemisphere or to incur miserable death in their transportation thither. . . . Determined to keep open a market where men should be bought and sold, he has prostituted his negative for suppressing every legislative attempt to prohibit or to restrain this execrable commerce [that is, he has opposed efforts to prohibit the slave trade]. 3
Benjamin Franklin, in a 1773 letter to Dean Woodward, confirmed that whenever the Americans had attempted to end slavery, the British government had indeed thwarted those attempts. Franklin explained that . . . ~ Thomas Jefferson, The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, Albert Ellery Bergh, editor (Washington, D. C.: Thomas Jefferson Memorial Assoc., 1903), Vol. I, p. 34.

. . . a disposition to abolish slavery prevails in North America, that many of Pennsylvanians have set their slaves at liberty, and that even the Virginia Assembly have petitioned the King for permission to make a law for preventing the importation of more into that colony. This request, however, will probably not be granted as their former laws of that kind have always been repealed. Benjamin Franklin, The Works of Benjamin Franklin, Jared Sparks, editor (Boston: Tappan, Whittemore, and Mason, 1839), Vol. VIII, p. 42, to the Rev. Dean Woodward on April 10, 1773.

The inconsistency of the institution of domestic slavery with the principles of the Declaration of Independence was seen and lamented by all the southern patriots of the Revolution; by no one with deeper and more unalterable conviction than by the author of the Declaration himself [Jefferson]. No charge of insincerity or hypocrisy can be fairly laid to their charge. Never from their lips was heard one syllable of attempt to justify the institution of slavery. They universally considered it as a reproach fastened upon them by the unnatural step-mother country [Great Britain] and they saw that before the principles of the Declaration of Independence, slavery, in common with every other mode of oppression, was destined sooner or later to be banished from the earth. Such was the undoubting conviction of Jefferson to his dying day. In the Memoir of His Life, written at the age of seventy-seven, he gave to his countrymen the solemn and emphatic warning that the day was not distant when they must hear and adopt the general emancipation of their slaves. ~ John Quincy Adams, An Oration Delivered Before The Inhabitants Of The Town Of Newburyport at Their Request on the Sixty-First Anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1837 (Newburyport: Charles Whipple, 1837), p. 50.

 

Just goes to show that if you can find a highly educated Republican it doesn't mean they actually learned anything.

Bachmann has a LLM and a JD.

At least Palin has an excuse for her stupidity.

 

Anyone need any other reason why folks of her ilk want, rather, need to cut education spending?

Much easier to cow the ignorant masses, right rsty?

 

I wonder what someone who would write something like this would say about Thomas Jefferson editing out parts of the Bible he found distasteful...

 

I love how the liberals cling to their claims that they are the true enlightened, intellectual superior beings in this country. and what's worse is they truly believe it. Sad

 

What does this have to do with the fact that Bachmann, a US Representative with a law degree, wouldn't pass a junior high US History exam?

 

Somebody on her staff had to know how silly that speech sounded. Good grief that was atrocious.

 

She has a mind? I think you've been misinformed, FB.

 

Would hit !

DD

 

I love how the conservatives in this country put up straw men rather than debate with anything approaching intellectual honesty. What's worse is they actually think they are making a valid argument. Sad.

 

If its so bad, then leave.

 

What little credibility you had wasn't worth wasting defending this turd. And the fact you equated this to O'Donnell's even stupider screw-up digs the hole even deeper.

 

He'd defend any turd with the letter R on it. He'd follow that turd all the way down the drain.

 

lol -- I was taking aim at FranchiseBlade's eliteist opinions.

by the way -- a law degree does not impress me. Law degrees are a dime a dozen -- even Michelle Obama has one from a supposedly reputable school.

 

I've known some people who were very smart as far retaining and regurgitating information but were completely incapable of independent thought and were gullible as hell.

I think Bachmann is one of these people. If she gets fed wrong information, she'll gladly accept it as fact without giving it a second thought and will be more than happy to repeat it in front of whatever TV camera is pointed at her at the moment.