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Kim Davis Saga

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Sep 8, 2015.

  1. Ottomaton

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    My ex wife worked with a head Pharmacist who refused to stock or sell the morning after pill due to 'moral reasons'.

    Yeah. I guess she had a right as the owner or a private pharmacy, but I still think she's a POS.
     
  3. Bobbythegreat

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    Yeah but that's a totally different situation. A private store owner choosing not to carry a product is completely different than someone deciding not to do their job because of bigotry.
     
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    Matthew 6:5
     
  5. aussie rocket

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    Both douchebags and in the wrong is all I'm saying.
     
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    Not gonna lie, when I heard "Eye of the Tiger" I thought it was a joke. The Rocky fan in me is appalled.
     
  7. Bobbythegreat

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    Fair enough.
     
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    Does my post in which I'm critical of a public servant refusing to do their job contradict what you think Christians are supposed to believe? It angers me that so many people are turned off from Christianity because of the prominence of people like Kim Davis. I do not believe moral policing favored by the Christian Right wins people to the faith, nor do I think it follows Jesus' second-greatest commandment of loving your neighbor as you love yourself. They'd rather an insular faith obsessed with dictating societal morality than an expansive one that sits among the destitute, feeds the hungry, comforts the grieving and exemplifies love, especially among non-believers.

    Christianity is a pretty diverse. Because I don't cloak myself in evangelical rhetoric, I don't "sound" like a Christian, I guess.
     
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    Might as well throw in another verse.


    Matthew 22:21

    They said, “Caesar's.” Then he said to them, “Therefore render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's.”

    Marriages in this country is a civil secular affair, some people for whatever reason just refuse to accept that
     
  10. Bobbythegreat

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  11. mtbrays

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    Yep, to reiterate what I said: she doesn't understand that to be a truly courageous reflection of her faith, she should simply resign instead of remaining obstinate in a position that dictates she fulfill a law she feels is unjust instead of holding her hands out for a paycheck she is no longer deserving of.
     
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    Well said. I think this same thing happened in Mississippi and the person resigned.
     
  13. Dairy Ashford

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    I imagine bail gets denied all the time, in this case the judge might want to preclude her from fundraising or public speaking in defense of genuine threat to basic administrative and bureaucratic functions.
     
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    Nice verse. Although taken out of context.

    I'm not talking about those particular posts or even your stance on this issue, because I have many christian friends who think she should have done differently.

    What do taxes have to do with issuing marriage licenses. If anything, marriage licenses should not be a matter of the state. But you know they like to get their hands on everything.
     
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    What does this have to do with an elected official?
     
  17. mtbrays

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    Many would take that verse to mean that Jesus says matters of the state, not just taxes, are civil affairs and matters of faith are church business. Conflating the two, especially in a society that has struck a balance between secular governance and a diverse religious population for over 200 years, is dangerous and the "Christian Right's" attempts to codify their narrow set of beliefs into law smack of desperation while the country changes around them.
     
  18. Cohete Rojo

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    Official what?
     
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    This is reflective of the can-of-worms that would be opened if individual employees, and especially representatives of the state, were allowed to impose their own personal morality on customers and those they serve instead of fulfilling their job descriptions.

    It's really as simple as this: there is no official religion in the United States. In fact, our Constitution forbids the government from establishing preference of one faith above all others and imposing that faith on those it serves. Therefore, those who work for the state are forbidden from using their position to further their religion's agenda in lieu of the government's.

    For all of the fear-mongering Libertarians do about the government unjustly affecting the lives of individual citizens, the rush to defend Kim Davis, and not the people she's officially discriminated against through her government position, is particularly curious.
     
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    Nobody posted the video of her from yesterday? Pathetic. SMH at Republicans.
     

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