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Kile a HOFer?

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by Rocketman95, Oct 24, 2002.

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  1. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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  2. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Jim Desahies was on the ballot. There is no way Kile should make the Hall of Fame. If Bert Blyleven and Jim Kaat (among others) haven't made it, Kile certainly shouldn't.
     
  3. kidrock8

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    He almost had as many bad years, as he had good years.
     
  4. Behad

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    If this guy is not a member, then no way should Kile be elected:
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    A baseball player, like any other person, is not immune to the tragedies of everyday life. On August 2, 1979, Thurman Munson’s twin-engine jet fell short of the runway during an attempted landing at the Akron-Canton airfield and tragically burst into flames. Munson was killed in the accident and two others were injured. The six-time All-Star was only 32 years old and had already established himself as one of the game’s premier catchers. In three consecutive World Series appearances in 1976, 1977, and 1978, Munson hit .529, .320 and .320 respectively. He started his career winning the American League Rookie of the Year award in 1970, batting .302, one of five seasons he hit over the .300 mark. In 1976, Munson led the Yankees into the World Series and earned Most Valuable Player honors in the American League. Following his death in 1979, the Yankees honored Munson by retiring his uniform number (15) and placing a memorial plaque on the center field wall at Yankee stadium. Although he is not an official member of baseball’s Hall of Fame, a re-creation of Munson’s locker, including spikes, glove, and jersey, has been preserved in Cooperstown.
     
  5. Manny Ramirez

    Manny Ramirez The Music Man

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    Great post, Behad, about Thurman Munson.

    I don't think you could find a better example of someone to use that is not in the HoF but had their career cut short like Kile.
     
  6. drapg

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    I heard this on the radio late last night and was in shock. There is absolutely no way he deserves to be an HOFer.

    from the article:

    Kile pitched for more than 11 years in the majors, going 133-119 with a 4.12 ERA. He had 1,668 strikeouts, 28 complete games and nine shutouts. The right-hander never missed a start and was never on the disabled list.

    A 20-game winner for the Cardinals in 2000, Kile twice finished fifth in NL Cy Young voting. He had his best season in 1997 with the Houston Astros, going 19-7 with a 2.57 ERA, 205 strikeouts and four shutouts. He also threw a no-hitter for Houston in 1993 against the New York Mets.



    those aren't HOF numbers.
     
  7. Manny Ramirez

    Manny Ramirez The Music Man

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    If Darryl Kile gets into the Hall of Fame, then they are going to be LOTS and LOTS of guys claiming that they belong in there as well.

    I don't see Kile being any better than Jim Kaat or Mickey Lolich and they are not in the Hall.
     
  8. 4chuckie

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    No way does he deserve to be in the HOF.

    I'm still hoping my boy Steve Garvey can find a way in someday.
     
  9. Baqui99

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    Just because he died a tragic death doens't make him an automatic HOFer.
     
  10. Hammer755

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    He's being put on the ballot because he is eligible. Here are the official rules of eligibility:

    I don't think anyone is arguing he deserves to be in the HOF, but he does belong on the ballot because he fulfulls the requirements.
     
  11. Rocketman95

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    Oh, I hope it didn't sound like I didn't think he should be on there...he should.
     
  12. drapg

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    so are the ballots like 8,000,000 pages long than? Is every single baseball player in history who has fit the rules on the ballot? I seriously doubt it.
     
  13. Hammer755

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    Everyone who has played more than 10 years has been on the ballot at least once (there have been a few exceptions made, Addie Joss comes to mind). If a player on the ballot is named on less than 5% of the submitted ballots, then his name is removed the next year. He can then only be voted in by the Veterans Committee.

    The following are the players who were on the 2002 ballot, in order of votes received. Only Ozzie was elected and everyone from Ron Guidry down received <5% and thus will be removed from the ballot next year.

    Ozzie Smith
    Gary Carter
    Jim Rice
    Bruce Sutter
    Andre Dawson
    Rich Gossage
    Steve Garvey
    Tommy John
    Bert Blyleven
    Jim Kaat
    Jack Morris
    Don Mattingly
    Luis Tiant
    Alan Trammell
    Dale Murphy
    Dave Parker
    Davey Concepcion
    Keith Hernandez
    Ron Guidry
    Dave Stewart
    Mike Greenwell
    Frank Viola
    Lenny Dykstra
    Tim Wallach
    Jeff Russell
    Robby Thompson
    Mike Henneman
    Scott Sanderson
     
    #13 Hammer755, Oct 25, 2002
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