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JVG vs. RA

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by derrick, Oct 3, 2007.

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Who is a better coach

  1. Jeff VanGundy

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  2. Rick Adleman

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  1. Blake

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    that said I think that Adelman is the breath of fresh air this team needs
     
  2. deshen

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    Rick hasn't coach a single Rocket's game,
    no poll.
     
  3. dntrwl

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    jvg was too ignorant
     
  4. Easy

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    The question is "who is a better coach?" not "who is better for the Rockets?"
     
  5. Zboy

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    Ehh....I don't. I also know other folks here who disliked his coaching style and hated the way he quit on the Knicks.
     
  6. cjstukenholtz

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    Well, for the Rockets, that was just the way last season went for them.

    Just think, whenever a team who had a real good regular season loses out in the postseason, especially early, the team and its fans will always think of the season being wasted away.

    Last season, I'm sure that after the Dallas Mavericks were eliminated by the Golden State Warriors in the first round, people thought of that 67-win season the Mavericks had as a season wasted away. The same could be said about the Seattle Supersonics in 1994, who were eliminated by the Denver Nuggets in the first round after posting 63 regular-season wins. Also, the same could be said about the Cleveland Cavaliers in 1989, who were eliminated by Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls in the first round after posting 57 regular season wins.

    On the flip side, after the Rockets won their 2nd NBA Championship in 1995, people either forgot or didn't even care about how mediocre their regular season was. Just think, each one of those teams the Rockets knocked off on their way to winning it all that year could have also won the championship as well. Two of them (Utah Jazz and San Antonio Spurs) had 60-plus wins, the other (Phoenix Suns) had 59 wins, while the Rockets' NBA Finals opponent (Orlando Magic) had 57 wins.
     
  7. macfan

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    I voted for Jeff. But only because you spelled Adelman wrong. Just kidding.

    Seriously though, I think JVG is the better coach. Defensively, probably the best to ever coach. Offensively, he needs a little more creativity, but Tmac and Yao let him down a bit last year.

    Adelman has had great offensive players everywhere he has been. I think we may be overrating his offensive genius.

    Let's what Adelman does. May be I will change my opinion. I hope I do
     
  8. darnbni99a

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    good post playa
     
  9. plutoblue11

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    JVG...aren't mentioning Van Gundy's tenure with Knicks...he had quartet of great offensive players...but they're found themselves in some ugly, downright unwatchable basketball....it does help win championship, but it can help team lose em too.

    He had Latrell, Ewing, L.J, and Houston. That right there should give you an above average offense...but they were slightly below average.
     
  10. plutoblue11

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    I'm convinced that Napoleon hated offense. There's no way anyone can convince me other wise. Even Larry Brown let his team loose sometimes.
     
  11. wnes

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    LOL ... this has to be a joke of the century.

    Gundy is the most overrated defensive coach in the NBA. When the pressure is on, Gundy-coached defense collapsed faster than a pile of rubbles. In last year's 7-game playoff, Utah's team FG% got progressively better under Gundy's suffocating defense: .356, .452, .388, .461, .468, .486, .513.

    We all know Gundy's offense sucked donkey, guess what, his defense isn't far "behind."
     
  12. weslinder

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    Traditionally, Van Gundy's teams have overachieved, and have played better than the sum of their parts. Traditionally, Adelman's teams have played roughly at their potential. The funny thing is, that with Scola and Francis/James, this team is probably better than any of the Rockets teams that JVG coached, so playing at their potential is better than the overachieving that the team last year (and especially the 04-05 team) did.
     
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    How did you determine that the improving FG% was a fault with coaching schemes, and not execution by players? Utah was a very good offensive team last year. There's only so much a coach can do against that; after a point, you must agree that responsibility falls on players. Point out some specific strategic defensive errors from JVG and his staff in that series.

    As I see it, the major defensive weakness for us in that series was our handling of Boozer. The coaches (correctly) didn't want Yao having to guard Okur on the perimeter, but that left him at a disadvantage having to guard the quicker Boozer around the basket. How could we have defended against Boozer/Okur better? Perhaps you have something else in mind.

    Also, for the record, Utah shot 44.4% from the field against us in that series. They shot 44.9% in a series loss against the Spurs.
     
  14. macfan

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    I am not sure I understand your sentiment on the issue. Are you pro or against Gundy?
    Just tell us how you really feel about JVG :)

    I think the Adelman change is good for the Rox for this year. Tmac and Yao needed a new coach, a breath of fresh air, but I am not sure how it will work beyond this year.

    JVG teams are always best on opponent FG% by the way. I don't think Yao or Tmac performed well on both ends. If they played well offensively, they would allow easy baskets on the other end for the Jazz. I think the strategy against the Jazz was great. They just outmuscled us.
     
  15. OrangeRowdy95

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    They made the Finals. I wouldn't call that below-average.
     
  16. solid

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    JVG turned me off before his first season was over. Way, way too negative, controlling, and inflexible. I was soooo glad to see him go, like a breath of fresh air. He had the most demotivating personality of any coach ever. He might be a hard worker, thorough, and an x & o genius, but, IMO, his absence is a blessing. No more old Knicks, no more "coach" Ewing, no more pounding the life out of Yao. The team is much better off.
     
  17. DaDakota

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    Van Gundy = Doc Rivers, they coach scrubs better but with talent they falter.

    DD
     
  18. OrangeRowdy95

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    Doc's never had talent. That's why all his teams have sucked. He finally has the talent. And he finally has JVG's protege. That's why the Celtics are winning it all this year. Houston-Boston Finals matchup, Boston in 7. Either the Rockets go to the championship or don't make it past ROund 1. If Tracy or Yao get injured for a significant amount of time, we could end up with the 5 or 6 seed and not have homecourt throughout the playoffs and play Phoenix in Round 1. I wouldn't like our chances.
     
  19. MiniMing

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    I like both coaches. But I can't really say who yet, because I like to see what RA does this year for us, for this team.
     
  20. Barkley

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    We cannot say JVG is a bad coach cause he isn't. But that's clear that Adelman's better, he's better for Rockets. JVG plays defense, and he used to kill the offensive potential
     

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