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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by PigMiller, Apr 30, 2008.

  1. rhester

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    DD- one thing I like alot better about RA over JVG is that RA isn't so pressed to win every game. It definately affected the team last season that JVG was all about winning every single reg. season game, thus- short leash on VSpan and Novak.

    Adelman realizes that there has to be game conditions for players to really develop a contribution and chemistry off the bench. But, having said that it is alot easier to do when the younger players show promise of contributing ie. Hayes and Head.

    JVG didn't mind giving minutes to Hayes and Head because even though they were young they also increased the team's opportunity to win.

    Both coaches have dog houses, but I like Adelman's approach much better of not making it an issue in public.
     
  2. Invisible Fan

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    Probably too emotionally wrecking for him to watch them.
     
  3. t_mac1

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    he has one thing in common still with the rockets right now: he LOATHES the jazz
     
  4. heypartner

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    right about what? Alston isn't getting the minutes that JVG had to give him. Wasn't JVG referring to the amount of minutes he had to give Alston.

    Anyhow, we can't afford to lose any starters. Alston is our starter. Losing him hurt us in Game 1 and 2. I like Alston as our starter. No one can convince me he isn't our best PG. We can go far, if his shooting holds up...but I just don't see how him missing the first two games makes JVG right? I don't see that connection.

    besides, BJax helped a lot in Game 5. He sparked the 18-0 run.
     
  5. heypartner

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    oh, forgot to add,

    SeeingRocketRed...Thanks for the detailed transcript of JVG on the officiating. much appreciated.
     
  6. LewLLOYD

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    JVG has always defended Rafer.
    Anyone notice Kenny and Charles started giving Rafer props lately.
    Charles in one segment said "I take my hat off to the Rockets" or something very similar.
     
  7. Spacemoth

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    Some good quotes:

    On Utah:
    "They foul, basically on every possession, and dare the refs to call them all game."

    On Phoenix:
    "Imagine how phoenix would be if they had joe johnson and rajon rondo." (He basically made the point that selling all those draft picks finally caught up with them.)

    On Hack-a-Shaq:
    "I don't think you should regulate for poor skill. If you can't make your free throws, that's on you."
     
  8. bbjai

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    I disagree with the Gay and Battier comment that people keep jumping on JVG for. Sure we probably would improve offensively but Im yet to see Gay play a lick of defence. Its like having two T-macs in defence, except one is even weaker then the current one.

    We would be like Denver

    heaps of offensive weapons
    not much actual defence
     
  9. blender

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    From SeeingRocketRed's transcript of the interview:

    I've also been reminded of Pat Reiley's "thug ball" Knicks of the 90s while watching this Jazz team. These Jazz are a lot less nasty and better outside shooters, but the M.O. seems pretty much the same.

    But I disagree with Lance Z that the best thing is for McGrady to go right at Harpring and dare the officials not to call the foul. Being too aware of the officials could be very distracting for McGrady and take him out of his rhythm, IMO. And at this point in the playoffs, I think the officials would actually be more reluctant to call fouls if they feel McGrady's constantly fishing for them.

    BTW, thanks for the trascribing job, SeeingRocketRed.
     
  10. Sherlock

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    I personally thought this was a great interview. It was about as knowledgeable and with candor as it gets about the Rockets, and I really appreciate how he shows such respect for everyone in the Rockets organization. I'm not saying it couldn't be impacted by the fact he's on the payroll, but it seems quite sincere and insightful.

    Have to agree with him on Battier vs Gay. I never had trouble with us getting Battier, just felt we gave up too much to get him, when we could have at least gotten another draft pick, especially if it had been the next year's lottery pick. I'm sure JVG would have some insight on losing in Denver too, but that one loss cost us Roy, and I would take Roy over Battier. I think Patterson outsmarted us on Roy too, when we should have completed the deal with Atlanta. But, Battier has been a great addition to our team, not only for defense, but his hustle and hard work ethic that has caught on with most of the players, and that's why we've been team oriented, which resulted in the streak.

    After listening to JVG, I have to admit I'm for us keeping the core together another year, and hoping Morey adds another couple quality players to the rotation this summer, and going for it all next year.

    His point that the West had actually gotten worse was surprising to me, but it actually makes sense, and gives one even more hope for our success next year.
     
  11. gifford1967

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    There's no one I like hearing talk basketball more than jvg.
     
  12. kwng

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    JVG always defended his players in many circumstances That's the good thing about him and he is kinda hot now as I read Dallas and probably Phoenix is interested in him ..
     
  13. rn_xw

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    there will always be teams getting worse. However dont underlook draft picks.. the spurs got here because of two great second round picks and think what would we be without Landry. So who knows if any teams are getting worse, some might get a steal on a late first or second round, and some may just waste their lottery picks.
     
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    rockets have been in the top 5 for defensive fg% in every season since drafting yao.
     
  15. DaDakota

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    Now if we could just get Yao to play a full season.

    ;)

    DD
     
  16. GATER

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    Van Gundy is great at two things. Packing the paint full of defenders and having a photographic memory of what has happened in basketball's past. He has the "vision" of a mole.

    Jeff...the only way MEM wins more games with Battier is if YOU are the Grizzlies coach and you hold the games to 60 points by each team. Phat chance.

    Funny no one has noticed Hollinger has Gay ranked overall waaaaaaaaayyyyyyy ahead of Battier for the past regular season.
     
  17. heypartner

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    Hollinger also predicted the Suns to win in 6 over the Spurs.

    Hollinger is just a pure math guy. JVG is much smarter that him wrt player evaluation and team evaluations. Hell, every single NBA coach is better than any of these espn stats gurus.

    I cannot believe you compared a stats guru to an NBA coach. Hollinger wishes he were an NBA coach.
     
  18. GATER

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    Thanks for being the first "fish" to take the bait. LMAO.

    And the Rockets hired a "stats guru" as GM....because...? The GM gets exactly the players the more knowlegeable coach wants?

    You...among the legions here...have a great love for the stats gurus...and quote them often. Until their opinion is not yours.
     
  19. Hayesfan

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    We quote Hollinger because he has a method to what he does. So does JVG.

    Neither one of them is always going to be right, because they are freaking human.

    We quote them because they have more knowledge to draw their conclusions from.

    And as to why Hollinger has Gay as higher ranked than Battier is because he puts up good numbers on a crappy team. Battier puts up modest numbers on a good team. His PER may be lower, but as we have all said before, not everything Battier does can be seen in a box score.

    I bet if you asked Hollinger who got the better deal out of the Battier Gay trade in the short term... he would say Houston too.
     
  20. heypartner

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    So, I guess you weren't serious about Hollinger rating Gay waaaaaaaaaay over Battier? Is that why you are calling me a fish? or maybe I'm missing something.

    huh? I don't quote stats gurus. I despise them. Ask durvasa. I do quote stats. Of course, all scouts and coaches do. But stats are a supplement to scouting. They are not scouting by themselves. I'm a wannabe scout, not a wannabe stat guru.

    btw: did you seriously value Morey at the level of Hollinger?
     

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