All this talk about firing JVG is crazy. All you bandwagon fans need to chill. If you're a true Rockets fan, you would know that it's too early to start judging JVG or any players on the Rockets for that matter. Rockets are doing what just the Astros just did. Don't worry, they're be there in the end when playoff comes. Right now, they just going through injury bugs, new players bug and all that good stuff. Give it time guys and just relax and go support your ROckets like you suppose to. JVG is a great coach, players just aren't hitting their open shots. I know the Rockets will be fine....T-MAC will make sure of it.
I agree. At the start of last season the same posters on this board we up in arms with the same crap. Then... We started winning. And with a LESSER squad than this year. It takes time for this group to gel and they have hardly played together. Give it time - a difficult proposition for some on this board but that is what is required.
I agree.Guys who screamed fire Gandy must think about this:If Jeff steps down,is there anyone who is capable to be Rox coach?I never find that person in League.So,I guess the deadline should be at all star game.Any change would be completed and Rox will enter the playoffs.
It's not a bandwagon reaction. We are simply holding our team to the same standards as others who have integrated new players. Why isn't Phoenix suffering barely w/o Stoudamire and the loss of Joe Johnson? What about the Clippers? Didn't they have to integrate an entire new backcourt? What about the Bucks? Face it, it's not just the injuries, it's the new players we have gotten- and that's directly on JVG.
I've never said the Rockets should fire Van Gundy right this second. But I'm not opposed to him being given his pink slip before the season is over. And one other thing. When does it stop being too early to judge the performance of this team? You realize we're 1/5 of the way through the season already, right? How much longer do we have to put up with 75 point outputs at home before at least acknowledging the possibility that Van Gundy might not be the right guy to lead this ballclub? January? The All-Star Break?
hi dude would please say sth positive? how could jvg solve the offence problem? right now there were three tactics i could see:yao post up ,pick and roll ,and T-Mac free style....hou could u say our problem was just the shooter can not hit the open shots? did u checked what per they have got in the later strench?
I've said it from day one, I love the weasely little b*stard. I would like to go back and find every one of those posts from people saying "it doesn't matter who we draft, Van Gundy will never play a rookie..."
On a thread to appeciate JVG you pray for TMAC to save the Rockets. I don't get it. JVG has a strategy of "let Tracy decides what to do" and maybe that's enough to build up the team's offense? Anyway, I really like JVG personally. I like his hard work, his humor. Yet at the same time I don't think he's suitable for the Rockets.
I appreciate JVG's hardwork and his dedication to his players. Not sure if he is the best coach for our players. But as many others have pointed out, there aren't that many options out there, so I'm happy to stick with JVG until a clearly superior choice presents himself/herself.
JVG has his flaws in his coaching schemes but I think he's worth keeping atleast until his contract expires. I have enough faith in the man to keep the Rockets in good shape for the long term. I think it's funny the same people that wanted to ship Rudy out because he was so carefree with his players, now are saying they want to get rid of JVG because he's too much of a hardass. Pick a side and stick with it please.
As i said in the Fire Gundy Thread, when there are no real candidates who can successfully take over, why sack him?.. it's unfair to ask a new coach who has'nt had a pre-season with the team to produce automaticly.
Well, I tried to appreciate him. However, knowing that his presence prevented the Rockets going the expensive route to get PJ will forver hinder my appreciation for JVG, especially if he cannot bring us a title or two.
Yes it is. C'mon now. This same fire gundy crap was here last year at the start, put together some wins and suddenly there is an appreciation thread. Fire Gundy stuff disappears at that point... And the Suns even with Joe and Amare but without Nash had a similarly bad record as the Rockets - it's all about who you lose and if that player makes your team better. On average Tmac does that for the Rockets.
why does no one see that losing your main playmaker seriously hinders a team, but losing a star down low isn't as big a deal? it's been mentioned around here so often, you'd think people would stop pointing to things like stoudemire in phx. anyway, keep JVG. where'd all the support from last year's playoffs go? When we were winning, it was all "I can't believe I ever lost faith " and "what a defensive mind" and "If Tracy says that many good things about the guy, he's gotta be good" and "What great moves acquiring the talent we needed during the season" and "what a coach; going to bat for yao against the refs". Start losing some and everyone forgets every one of those things. When people do good things, they should earn some credit and slack. Right now, you're basically saying "who cares about the past--all I care about is now". I bet you're the same people who revere Rudy and want him back now...and yet wanted him pushed out the door because he "couldn't adapt his ISO offense from the days of Hakeem to the new talents of Steve and Cat". To EVERyone asking for Rudy back...do you remember all those complaitns when we were losing and you wanted him out? So fickle in every sense..
Tell me what you appreciate. His self-justification? He had an extraordinary stroke of luck with Tmac falling into our laps, just as he'd alienated Steve. I don't see many other accomplishments. He dumped Eddie Griffin for nothing. He brought in cast off ex-Knicks when things got over his head with other players : Mark Jackson, Charles Oakley, Charlie Ward, Clarence Weatherspoon, Rod Strickland. He had to get JJ, then dump JJ. He'll have to do the same with Wesley. We have Moochie and Baker. He brought in Swift over all other candidates at the 4. He traded Mike James for Rafer Alston. He has Patrick Ewing on the bench. He seems a stubborn old mule that burns through his players then dumps them for lesser value. You can't build a franchise that way. Fire consumes, it is not self-sustaining. JVG's "fire" is destroying our franchise. We need a coach who is more the nature of water. It flows where nature allows. It nurtures and feeds growth. We do not need JVG anymore. He can go home to New York.
I'm critical of JVG but don't think we should can him, yet, and think he deserves more time and a chance to get players healthy.. That said its ridiculous to accuse those who criticize JVG as being bandwagon fans. JVG isn't the Rockets and neither are T-Mac, Yao or any one player. Just because people criticize JVG doesn't mean we're not passionate about wanting to see the Rox win. If I knew for certain that firing JVG and trading Yao and T-Mac would guarentee the Rox winning the NBA Championship I would be all for it. The Rockets are a team JVG is the coach, not the team.
