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Joe Biden's America

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SuraGotMadHops, May 12, 2021.

  1. astros123

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    The usa for the first time is in no active war zones. When trump was president we had several hundreds dead in iraq/syria/Afghanistan. We have less combat deaths now than at any point in decades.

    You people are such low iq posters. Get off twitter and read a book
     
  2. Space Ghost

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    The Biden administration is very weak when it comes to foreign affairs. How is Houthis even a threat? Do you really think Putin decided to wait for Covid to be over because he feared the virus for his military sake? Hamas and the rest of the ME knows the Biden administration isn't going to back Isreal.
     
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    Trump bombed yemen for 4 years non stop with the saudis and didn't eliminate them but somehow that's on biden? USA has given israel whatever weapons they've needed since october in the face of growing protests.

    None of your points make any sense
     
  4. rocketsjudoka

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    Except the Biden Admin has sent a lot of aid to Israel and even traveled to there early on during the conflict. Israelis themselves have said they feel Biden has done a lot to help them.

    The Houthis and Iran aren’t upset at Biden because they think he’s weak and mot going to back Israel but because he is backing Israel.

    Also aren’t you criticizing backing Biden for arming Ukraine?
     
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    Zero Edge is right wing extremist website ---full of misinformation---w ties to Putin.

    it gained traction during the US financial crisis, ~~2009-2009, when it propagated the spin that it was unconscienable for the Federal Reserve to print $ out of thin air.
    Poster Invisible Fan cut n pasted this false narrative.

    more recently, to counter inflation, induced by the supply chain bottleneck and Russian invasion of Ukraine, the Fed started QT to lessen the effect of QE.
    QT aims to reduce liquidity, which includes reducing Fed's asset. Zero Edge then disparaged Fed for "wrecking its balance sheet" :oops::oops:
    then Poster Invisible Fan cut n pasted this contradictory false narrative

    Effectively, Zero edge blasted the Fed for QE; then when the Fed started to lessen the effect of QE, it blased the Fed again :oops::oops:
     
  6. Space Ghost

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    My current belief is that the US should strive to make better connections with China and India. We should be heavily investing in S America.

    Let Europe fend for themselves. If they are afraid of Russia, they can buy whatever weapons they want to give to Ukraine. We don't need to dissolve NATO, but going forward, being friendly with China and India is more important long term.
     
  7. LosPollosHermanos

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    I can't believe this is what we live, and he has only been president a couple of years


    I still remember when I could pull out a couple of dollars and buy a water bottle. Was feeling thirsty the other day and all I had was a couple of $20s.

    Dark times are ahead
     
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  8. rocketsjudoka

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    Your arguments are all over the place. What does pivoting toward the PRC or India have to do with the houthis or Israel? Wouldnt letting Europe fend for itself be seen as weakness and not standing up for allies?

    and in the other thread you said that you believed war was a lose lose so how do you even judge that Biden if you believe that getting involved with any war is a loss?
     
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    Last I checked you could still buy a bottle of water for a couple of dollars or less.
     
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    spare me all the insurance/coupons/copay ---aint nobody got time for that.

    Joe Biden has made us all poorer, just admit it. People can't even drink water now dammit
     
  11. rocketsjudoka

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    I don’t know if you’re making a joke. I hope so.
     
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    he is
     
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    You have criticized Biden for being a war monger in supporting Ukraine. Would Biden not supporting Ukraine actually make the Biden admin stronger when it comes to foreign affairs? Or weaker?

    Do you want the Biden admin to directly strike Iran for the Houthis' actions to appear 'stronger'?
     
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    The Republican party is split.

    One part wants to fund and support Ukraine in its fight against Russian aggression. This faction also advocates for Biden to retaliate directly against Iran for the recent attack on US servicemen. BTW, there have been frequent drone attacks on US interests since the Hamas terrorism event, all of which had been unsuccessful until this one due to a mistaken identification of the drone as a US military drone instead of a hostile one.

    The other part of the party, mainly composed of MAGA supporters, wants to cut off funding to Ukraine entirely, essentially ceding it to Putin's Russia. While this approach would be considered an American retreat and a sign of weakness in foreign policy, it's the same group that criticizes Biden for being weak and not attacking Iran directly. There's a bit of schizophrenia in this faction due to its inconsistency, but it seems to align with the perspective that anything anti-Biden is the right view.

    The Biden admin is working to contain the Israeli-Hamas war and is collaborating with Arab states (Egypt, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, ...) on the larger goal of ending the conflict and pursuing long term peace. Iran and groups like the Houthis, of course, do not want any normalization between Israel and Arab states and would love nothing more than for the war to escalate into a larger conflict.
     
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    I thought the dipshit MAGA claim biden is "weaponizing" the doj @El_Conquistador . Funny how the doj has brought criminal charges against the president son, a democratic Congressman, and has brought charges against other dems.

    It's almost as if dems are weak cuz they play by the book always while the MAGATs spin conspiracies 24/7 @tallanvor
     
  16. Space Ghost

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    My position has been if Europe is terrified of Russia, they should be buying the arms from us and giving it to Ukraine. Ultimately Europe needs to start pulling their weight.

    When I state the Biden administration's foreign policy is weak, what I mean is that other countries are not afraid to push the line. Its less about whether to escalate an issue but more about effectiveness of diplomacy
     
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    Trump wrote love letters to Kim Jung for years and then in 2020 north Korea fired the first ever IBCM in years lol and you didn't say anything then. Iran continued attacking us soliders every month Trump was in office yet you didn't call him weak.

    Donks will be donks
     
  18. Amiga

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    Europe has provided around 95 billion to Ukraine since the war started, while the US has contributed approximately 71 billion. They are pulling their weight.

    So, what you mean is not what the Biden admin has actually done, but rather the perception of what other countries think of the Biden admin. I find that to be erroneous. You don't really know why a country 'pushes' the line. It could be for many reasons, and you are essentially guessing with a few single variables, which is problematic in a very complex world.

    For example, why did Russia invade Ukraine at the time it did? The simple variable answer includes factors like the change in the POTUS or Covid. It's more likely that they had been planning it for years, and the opportunity seemed right (troop readiness, equipment, funding, Ukraine's internal politic, etc), or so they mistakenly thought.

    Total bilateral aid to Ukraine by country & type 2023 | Statista
     
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    Cheap cover -- but you bought it -- lol.

    Can you explain to us the Jean Carroll case? An allegation from 30 years ago, no evidence, no witnesses, no police report, no reporting of the crime at the time it took place at all. She's a massive Law & Order TV show fan -- and the accusation mirrors the exact plot line of an Law & Order episode. Her lawyer was Ashley Biden's lawyer and a former mentee of the actual judge in the trial. Is this America? Our legal system has become a political weapon, used and abused by short-sighted liberals. The liberals realized they can bring absurd cases in 90%+ Democratic jury pool locations, like Manhattan and DC, and get away with their lies. Totally dishonest -- shameful. Yet many around here support it fully, like fools.
     
  20. astros123

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    The Jean Carol case is a scam and I don't buy trump sexually assaulted her. Not sure what you're trying get out of me.
     

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