I care and understand his point and the point is flawed. You will never be able to understand my point. Yes or No?
you don't understand his point, I understand everything and the ending of the Fountain. you still don't get BigEZ's point, you're just trying to justify anything cause its a Yao article Mary-Ann or Ginger?
Attempt to derail the topic again? Is someone who volunteers to serve hot meal in the SA a contributor to society? Yes or No?
BigEZ mentioned MLK and Malcolm as contributing at a higher degree to society than athletes of today right? Robocop or Terminator?
Did Manhore talk about higher degree or lower degree? Did manhore compare Yao to MLK? Who has mindlessly tried to compare Yao to MLK in order to show his disagreement that he can be a contributor to society? Why do you keep using the different degree or level to bail out? Is someone who volunteers to serve hot meal in the SA a contributor to society? Yes or No?
I'm talking about leebigez, he's the guy you can't understand why he's pulling up MLK or Malcolm. Foo Fighters or Nirvana?
You are not making sense now. So talking dumb is your way to bail out of embarrassment? Carry on. Is someone who volunteers to serve hot meal in the SA a contributor to society? Yes or No?
What point have I avoided? Yao can be a contributor to society after he retires. MLK was a contributor to soceity in a greater degree. They are both contributors to society. Is someone who volunteers to serve hot meal in the SA a contributor to society? Yes or No?
Tinman, MacFu isn't trying to argue against whether or not leebigez's point is true, as we all can see that MLK and Malcolm X's contribution to society is far greater than what Yao has accomplished so far. He's arguing that leebigez's point wasn't a valid response to what was said in the first place, which was Manhore's reason for supporting a humanitarian like Yao. Leebigez essentially moved the goalpost to an inaccessible length by comparing Yao to the leaders of the civil rights movement. However, that was hardly Manhore's point. You can still admire and support a player even if he didn't bring about societal reform.
You are the one who said they are both greatest contributors. You try to say dumb stuffs here now. Don't try to blame someone else like you always do. He said Yao is no MLK. Yes he's right. Yao is no MLK. Who thinks he is? But using this to argue that Yao is not a contributor to society is not smart. Yes or not? Is someone who volunteers to serve hot meal in the SA a contributor to society? Yes or No?
BigEZ is making a statement about athletes money and how he thinks while Yao is a humanitarian, no way will he 'contribute' as much to society because of money. BigEZ also mentions later about Ali and how he lost everything to prove his principles. He says Yao, in the grand scheme of things won't contribute that much to society as athletes before. He wouldn't dare do anything like MLK or Malcolm. He wouldn't dare risk it. Then MacFu goes all hissy fit on him calling leebigez (one of the best posters on this board and a contributer to NBA Radio's Full Court Press) 'ignorant'.
Thank you. I don't believe Tinman is really this dumb. He's just pretending not to be able to understand and hopefully I will get tired and give up so he can bail out of the embarrassment.
Wait did MacFu say "you are not making sense at all" and "ignorant post"?? So do you know leebigez's point if "you are not making sense at all"?? Ice Cube or Snoop Dogg?
Your highlighting of these quotes is amusing, but I'm afraid you are grossly misrepresenting MacFu's position. When he said, "where did MLK and Malcolm come into play," he didn't mean that literally. The point was that there is no reason to bring these two icons of societal reform into a conversation where Manhore was simply stating his reasons for supporting Yao. It is analogous to if someone said he admires Mother Theresa for her selfless work. Then, someone else came and stated, "it's not like she's Jesus Christ. She isn't the sole salvation of mankind, like Jesus was." While it's true that Mother Theresa, in this scenario, can't compete with the son of God (if you believe in it), it's a pointless comparison. Moving the goalpost is a logical fallacy, and it's what Leebigez did in that situation.
Can Yao still be a contributor to society even if he wouldn't do anything like MLK? Yes or No? I said his 'post' is ignorant (and it is). I don't think he's ignorant in basketball. Why do you keep trying to twist what someone has said in order to make your point. You can do better than that. Is someone who volunteers to serve hot meal in the SA a contributor to society? Yes or No?
Yes, I understand BigeEZ's point, and I agree with him fully. Yao has done nothing that can even scratch the surface of the others mentioned. However, I hope you can see the point that BigEZ's argument, while true, did not validly address Manhore's proclamation of his admiration for Yao.
Yao is 'soft'...but that doesn't he's not a good player or capable of leading a team to a Championship or being a winner. Clearly Yao is a winner, he has accomplished much in life and has proven over and over that he is a winner in life. It's just that he's a 'soft' basketball player...that's his game...it's a 'soft' game: set shots, high post, poor shot blocking for his size, layups when he could dunk it. The reason he has as many blocks as he does it because everyone on the floor wants to take it to him and dunk on him because they know he will not make them pay. This is not Yao's fault necessarily, he lacks the quickness to be a good shot blocker and to commit good, clean fouls to prevent layups. So Yao is 'soft' but still great.
