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"Invasion"

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  1. Austin70

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    Or Cole Trickle.
     
  2. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    Or Scientologists in general.
     
  3. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    OK, here goes.

    I don't understand ranting about a remake of a movie. You don't have to go see it and it won't affect you in any tangible way. If you'd seen the movie and you hated it or something like that, then I could understand a little better.

    Is that OK?
     
  4. Coach AI

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    Isn't the first post kinda going to provoke...something?

    For the record, I wasn't interested in this movie before and after reading your post. But it does kinda come across like you're pretty upset about such a dumb thing. :D Sorry man, just sayin'.
     
  5. Surfguy

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    Yes, that is better than the other way you phrased it. I think a lot of sci-fi fans feel the genre has gone tired and releasing a re-make of an existing storyline (for the fourth time) is not helping the genre...it's only providing a more fertile environment for future re-makes of other existing sci-fi films. It's almost as if Hollywood has thrown their hands in the air and said "we can't make an original sci-fi film so let's do another remake...we will just tune it for current events, change a thing here and there, and get a named star or two in it". Given that...I am not criticizing the film itself. I am willing to concede that this movie could be better than its predecessors from an action standpoint and possibly even an acting standpoint...absent the original storyline. We know Hollywood can remake any film and probably remake it better...albeit not always...each time. But, is that what sci-fi fans really want? I don't. Yes, it doesn't affect me in any tangible way but it represents a slot for another sci-fi film that could have been new, original, and exciting which wasn't made in lieu of this film.

    I decided to comment after reading below on Yahoo!...because it seems like this film has had more than its share of problems getting produced. I mean...four directors later and several scenes re-shot. Yikes.

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    Four directors later, "Invasion" hits theaters By Kirk Honeycutt
    Thu Aug 16, 9:54 AM ET



    LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - Few movies come into the market as radioactive as "The Invasion." Bloggers declared the movie DOA months ago. Even its studio, Warner Bros. Pictures, didn't give the film a premiere, despite a starry cast of Nicole Kidman and Daniel Craig.

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    The film was intended as the English-language debut for German director Oliver Hirschbiegel, who made "Downfall," the utterly compelling dramatization of the last days of the Third Reich. After production wrapped in early 2006, the Wachowski brothers of "Matrix" fame were brought in for reshoots. They in turn hired their "V for Vendetta" director James McTeigue to direct new scenes they wrote.

    One can play the game of who shot what and how a potential masterpiece of creeping paranoia was ruined by Hollywood suits forever. But what we have is this: an involving sci-fi action-thriller, probably longer on chase sequences than the original director wanted and shorter on the "ick" factor than the studio wanted.

    Unless pre-word-of-mouth already has sullied the title beyond redemption, "Invasion" should see a solid two weeks of box office in theatrical release, both domestic and foreign, and then establish itself as a robust title on DVD.

    This is, as you probably know, the second or third remake -- depending on what you count -- of Don Siegel's 1956 sci-fi classic "Invasion of the Body Snatchers." Based on the novel by Jack Finney, that film deservedly is credited as being one of the screen's pre-eminent commentaries on the McCarthy era in America. This new version, scripted by David Kajganich, makes a feeble stab at contemporary relevance by interjecting President Bush, Iraq, Darfur and Hurricane Katrina into the mix through background news reports. But in this version at least, this political context a nonstarter.

    What "Invasion" -- like all its remakes and imitators -- has going for it is a mortal fear of microbes, going as far back as the Black Plague or as current as AIDS. And there is always that anti-establishment tone in the material, which sees government, police and all authority as untrustworthy. This time a space shuttle cracks up on re-entry into Earth's atmosphere and strews wreckage across America along with a strange substance. All the scientists know is that "it ain't from around here."

    The film's protagonist, somewhat arbitrarily, is Carol Bennell (Kidman), a shrink. A patient complains that her husband is not her husband. Emotionless people stalk the streets. Her beloved son Oliver (Jackson Bond) comes home from Halloween trick-or-treating with this strange substance in his candy.

    She takes the substance to an infatuated doctor friend, Ben Driscoll (Craig), who immediately gives it to lab technician Galeano (Jeffrey Wright), who right away knows something is wrong. Meanwhile, the government and media report that this is nothing more than a flu strain.

    To cut to the many chases, a spore from outer space is attacking human DNA while people sleep and usurping their bodies. This is seen in hooky 3-D animation inside the body that looks like those Let's Learn Chemistry exhibits at Disneyland many years ago. Swiftly everyone around Carol and Oliver turns into pleasant though malevolent humanoids.

    Carol's estranged husband, a doctor at the Centers for Disease Control who already is a humanoid, forcibly infects Carol. On the run, searching for Oliver, who turns out to be mysteriously immune, and linking up with the dashing Driscoll, Carol has the main goal of staying awake for as many hours -- or days -- as it takes to reach the safety of unaffected humans.

    This involves chases, car crashes, shootings and hideouts as she gulps uppers. What is never clear is why the humanoids think this shrink and her son are so important. They still have the rest of the world to infect.

    From the peeks at "the Hirschbiegel movie," one can perhaps glean amid all the action that the director -- who still is the director of record -- appears to have wanted a much more claustrophobic film, a paranoid nightmare about a frantic need to stay awake rather than sleeping oneself into a placid, lotus-eating nonexistence.

    Maybe some day Warners will release both versions on DVD. For now we have an effective action thriller that only hints at the psychological complexity the director might have wanted.

    Cast:

    Carol Bennell: Nicole Kidman

    Ben Driscoll: Daniel Craig

    Tucker Kaufman: Jeremy Northam

    Galeano: Jeffrey Wright

    Oliver: Jackson Bond

    Wendy Lenk: Veronica Cartwright

    Dr. Belicec: Joseph Sommer

    Ludmilla Belicic: Celia Weston

    Yorish: Roger Rees

    Director: Oliver Hirschbiegel; Screenwriter: David Kajganich; Based on the novel by: Jack Finney; Producer: Joel Silver; Executive producers: Roy Lee, Doug Davison, Susan Downey, Steve Richards, Ronald G. Smith, Bruce Berman; Director of photography: Rainer Klausmann; Production designer: Jack Fisk; Music: John Ottman; Costume designer: Jacqueline West; Editor: Hans Funck, Joel Negron.

    Reuters/Hollywood Reporter
     
  6. Surfguy

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    Get a grip. This is a forum and it's a topic of discussion. You are reading too much into it. I could have posted a "Who is hotter?" thread but I chose not to.
     
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    Twilight theme song plays.
     
  8. Coach AI

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    ...uh...and now I need to 'get a grip', huh? I won't point out the connection. :)

    Just saying it came across like you were pretty worked up, that's all.
     
  9. Surfguy

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    Sorry if I provoked you into doing something you did or didn't want to do ;). I learned it from that other guy. As far as the "worked up", their just words on a page. My style might have a tendency to come across as me "flying over the deep end" but I assure you that is not the reality of it. In other words, it's heated only as much as the weight of the topic counts for. In this case, the weight of the topic is equivalent to "what do i want to eat for dinner?". Dammit...I want to EAT AN UNORIGINAL HAMBURGER.

    You've all tried to bust me on this. I'm not a spewer of emotional diatribe. I'm not slicing my arm with a razor while I type. Mmmkay? Drugs are bad.
     
  10. Rocketman95

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    If that would've been your sig, this wouldn't have happened. :p
     
  11. Surfguy

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    Walter: "I'm perfectly calm, dude. Calmer than you are. Dude?"

    The Dude: "Their going to kill that poor woman!"

    Walter: "I didn't lie face down in the mud at Kae Son to let these ratf*ck bastards kick me out of a coffee shop. I'm staying. I'm finishing my coffee."

    Walter: "I don't f*cking bowl on Cesar Chavez!"

    Okay...not word-for-word quotes. That's emotion, man.

    Walter: "STFU, DONNY!"
     
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    This is kinda off-topic (and that might be a good thing), but what are some good, true-to-the-core sci-fi movies that've been made since the year 2000?


    Minority Report & I Robot had some pretty cool visions of the future, but were a little to 'blockbustery' for my tastes. Although I've watched both several times.

    The Island wasn't horrible for a mixmash of Logan's Run, Brave New World & Blade Runner...

    Children of Men wasn't all that good.

    Serenity was more like a Star Trek movie - it just felt like a TV series condensed on the big screen.

    New Star Wars shouldn't count.


    I think the comic book movies stole potential budgeting from action and sci-fi at the same time - hopefully that craze is near its end.
     
  13. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Not even close. Its:
    Walter Sobchak: I told those ****s down at the league office a thousand times that I don't roll on Shabbos!
    Donny: What's Shabbos?
    Walter Sobchak: Saturday, Donny, is Shabbos, the Jewish day of rest. That means that I don't work, I don't get in a car, I don't ****ing ride in a car, I don't pick up the phone, I don't turn on the oven, and I sure as ****
    [shouts]
    Walter Sobchak: don't ****ing roll! Shomer shabbos!
    The Dude: Walter...
    Walter Sobchak: Shomer ****ing shabbos.
    The Dude: Oh **** it.
    No such luck for you pal. Iron Man, The Incredible Hulk, Thor, The Avengers, Ant Man, Batman: The Dark Knight, The Watchman, Nick Fury and Captain America are all due out in the next few years.
     
  14. Faos

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    I read in Entertainment Weekly that the Wachowski Brothers (The Matrix) were brought in to add their touch to the movie. Apparently the movie was a little flat in places and it needed some Wachowki Magic. They aren't credited for it though.
     
  15. Coach AI

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    That's cool. I wasn't saying it was a bad thing or anything, just that it's how it came across. I have noticed that you are an opinionated fellow. :D
     
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    i read the entire thread. and i have to say whiners do get on my nerves.

    but come on this is a freaking message board. while the hell would somebody be discouraged for talking about pros/cons of a movie coming out. i could agree/disagree with what your saying and i would think the same ( i pretty much agree with you, think of something new)

    they really do need to make some new sci-fi stuff. i guess they have pretty much used all the stories they wanted to of phillip k dick's stuff.
     
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    Invasion of the BBS Snatchers
     
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    I'm a horror movie fan, I like Nicole Kidman and Daniel Craig, and Invasion does look good, however, I think it was pretty tasteless to blatantly use the Columbia disintegration for a movie like they did.
     
  19. Surfguy

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    It doesn't look good if you browser over to RottenTomatoes and look at the 20% approval rating.
     
  20. moestavern19

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    I'm almost at the point where I don't want to see a movie unless Christian Bale, Christopher Nolan, Judd Apatow or Frank Miller isn't involved.
     

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