exactly I was watching ESPN classic the other day and it was a random Yankees vs. Twins regular season game from 1998 (im not sure why it was so special)...Anyways, it was the 10th inning and pinch hitting for the Twins was David Ortiz. You wanna talk about HGH??? This dude was small as hell. My personal theory was the heart problems he had were caused by steroids. which is one reason why he might not be using them now...which is why his HR numbers are way down
Because people never grow larger as they age, and everyone who gets bigger is always on HGH. Not to say that I think the Red Sox are clean, because by and large, I agree with the point. I just think it's silly how many people look at the size of a person and conclude he must have done steroids.
I guess, but do people really get that much bigger in 3 years? You're probably right, but I was just amazed on how small as hell he was.
Actually, this is a serious question. What other causes are responsible for ballooning up to the size of 800 lbs then?
Yeah even David Ortiz thinks it's silly too when he said he believes Barry Bonds is clean...His head grew three hat sizes naturally edit: He's so loved that nobody questioned his physical problems. His size (okay fine i'll give you that he grew VERY large in 3 years. His heart problems. His dehydration. His fatigue. Dehydration and fatigue??? From sitting on the bench? And all that just went away...His HR numbers dramatically decreased too. The way he just goes about himself too. When he defended Barry. Also when he saide "might have" taken something in the past without knowing....If he was on any other team, or an ass to the media, we'd hear more about this
I don't think Barry Bonds is clean, but the size of his head isn't the reason I think he used steroids. I know plenty of people whose heads have grown larger -- along with their bodies -- as they've aged. Add in the kind of weight-lifting techniques used in professional sports, and things like that will happen. Look at how Jeff Bagwell shrunk after his shoulder injury made him unable to lift.
The latest: Byrd says doctor prescribed HGH Byrd says doctor prescribed HGH Ken Rosenthal FOXSports.com, Updated 16 minutes ago Yes, Indians right-hander Paul Byrd admits to taking human-growth hormone. In his upcoming book, "The Free Byrd Project," he even writes about resisting the temptation to use an increased dosage with the hope of throwing harder. Byrd says he never hid his use of HGH because it was prescribed to him under a doctor's care. He paid for the substance with his own credit card. At one point, he had it sent in his name to the Braves' spring-training facility in Kissimmee, Fla. Byrd says he no longer takes HGH and has not taken it this season. But now, as Byrd prepares to possibly pitch in relief for the Indians Sunday night in Game 7 of the American League Championship Series, his past use of HGH is an issue. In an exclusive interview with FOXSports.com, Byrd did not dispute a San Francisco Chronicle report stating that he received nearly $25,000 worth of HGH and syringes from a Florida anti-aging clinic that was targeted by law enforcement for illegally distributing performance-enhancing drugs. Byrd said that three different doctors diagnosed him as suffering from adult growth-hormone deficiency. In spring training, he said, he was diagnosed with a tumor on his pituitary gland at the base of his brain, a condition that may have contributed to his deficiency, doctors told him. "I have not taken any hormone apart from a doctor's care and supervision," Byrd said. "The Indians, my coaches and MLB have known that I have had a pituitary gland issue for some time and have assisted me in getting blood tests in different states. I am currently working with an endocrinologist and will have another MRI on my head after the season to make sure that the tumor hasn't grown." In his book, Byrd says, he "shares some of the temptations I have had in MLB to cheat by scuffing baseballs and taking more than the prescribed dose of a particular hormone to increase the speed of my fastball. In the end, as scouts can testify, I did neither." The Chronicle report says that Byrd received HGH from the Palm Beach Rejuvenation Center from Aug. 2002 to Jan. 2005, a period of time during which he played for the Royals and Braves. He underwent elbow-ligament transplant surgery on July 1, 2003, missed the entire '03 season and did not pitch again until June 19, 2004. Major League Baseball formally banned HGH on Jan. 13, 2005, but does not test for the substance. The Food and Drug Administration has approved the use of HGH only for specific conditions and diseases, according to the Journal of the American Medical Association. The list includes adult growth-hormone deficiency — the condition that former major leaguer David Segui cited in explaining his use of HGH — but not standard baseball injuries. "We are aware of the story regarding Paul," Indians general manager Mark Shapiro said in a statement. "I have spoken with Paul about the situation, however, at this time I don't feel I have enough information to make any further comments on the matter. He has been an important member of this organization — on and off the field — over the last two years and we support him in this process." Byrd, a devout Christian, says he has had difficulty sleeping his entire life, and that his mother briefly put him on Ritalin when he was a young boy. In his book, he describes the effects of his sleeplessness and how it ultimately led him to a physician that prescribed HGH. "Even though there were good things like my time with God that came out of my aloneness in the night, the sporadic periods of fatigue and lack of sleep have really bothered me on the baseball field," Byrd writes. "Chronic sore throats, an inability to recover and throw bullpens and times of tiredness have all affected while standing on the mound. "At the insistence of a close friend, I went and had my hormones checked . . . To my surprise, the doctor told me that I was producing very little growth hormone and prescribed a dosage to help me out. I didn't like sticking a needle in my inner thigh each night but I sure did enjoy the sleep that occurred afterwards. My life changed during that time and I was able to work out more, experience less fatigue and recover quicker from pitching. "Like the other temptations that I've mentioned in this book, I had a new one to deal with one night when I stuck that needle in the hormone-filled bottle. I wondered if I doubled my prescribed dose, whether or not I would throw harder and have a better and possibly longer career. After all, I had a prescription. "Some strange silent voices ran across my brain and had conversations with me as I pulled back the syringe. I remember having thoughts that doing better on the field could mean more money for my family, my charities and even supporting churches. Then I prayed and realized that God was in control of my life and he wouldn't want me making money through cheating the system." http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7358706
Err, maybe not quite true: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21405615/ Claims he had a prescription for it. Whether that's true, who really knows at this point but he apparently talks about it in a book that's about to be released - writen well before this story broke obviously: In his interview with Fox, Byrd added that his upcoming book, “The Free Byrd Project” deals with his temptation to use increased doses of HGH in the hope of throwing harder. In his book, Byrd said, he “shares some of the temptations I have had in MLB to cheat by scuffing baseballs and taking more than the prescribed dose of a particular hormone to increase the speed of my fastball. In the end, as scouts can testify, I did neither.” Byrd writes in his book that he discovered his growth hormone deficit when he visited a doctor because he was having trouble sleeping, something he said had affected him all his life. “Even though there were good things like my time with God that came out of my aloneness in the night, the sporadic periods of fatigue and lack of sleep have really bothered me on the baseball field,” Byrd writes. “Chronic sore throats, an inability to recover and throw bullpens and times of tiredness have all affected while standing on the mound. “At the insistence of a close friend, I went and had my hormones checked ... to my surprise, the doctor told me that I was producing very little growth hormone and prescribed a dosage to help me out. I didn’t like sticking a needle in my inner thigh each night but I sure did enjoy the sleep that occurred afterwards. My life changed during that time and I was able to work out more, experience less fatigue and recover quicker from pitching.
Craig Biggio & a couple of other players take a banned substance, Adderall (which is essentially speed), as treatment for ADD/ADHD, under doctor's supervision & with the full knowledge of MLB. What should his punishment be? There's also much debate over the efficacy of HGH: http://www.slate.com/id/2162473/nav/navoa/
I just want the Indians to win because I don't want to have to deal with Red Sox fans taking over the city of Denver. Plus, if we play the Indians, the Rockies should have John Elway throw out the first pitch to remind Cleveland of their past.
Do you people even know that your hat size is measured in 1/8 of an inch at a time? So "3 hat sizes" could equal 3/8 of an inch difference? And? From age 18 to age 30, most men's hat size increases that much naturally. Next question.
Oh, this topic is about baseball. I thought it was going to be about someone bitter about losing their money in a casino or something.
