Depends on if Kmart plays or not. If he is hurt like yao and mcgrady I think this deal might have been bad. It also depends on on if knicks sign anyone. It seems like a good deal, but you can't judge for a few years.
Big win. Philly was the other best deal, but K-mart is almost as good as Iggy and this deal is much better in terms of finances/future flexibility. We were never going to win anything with Yao and Iggy as 1-2 but now we have the assets to bring in Bosh/Amare or just draft a bunch of good players.
I lean toward choice number 1 in terms of the trade's potential for the team. But, the phrase "got all the pieces we need" seems kind of a stretch.
This is a great quote from this article: http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ba...t=ArASLIodzrxCsTotfx7dEuy8vLYF?urn=nba,220605
Holy hell that's a huge turnaround from last night's reaction. I know that the Knicks making it a three way deal was still speculation last night, but even that deal did not have anywhere near this high of an approval rate (see "Morey is King" thread for full details).
Martin is not injured right now. I guess we'll see if he continues to miss 20 games per season though All in all, fantastic trade.
This trade is a win for all involved, including McGrady, at face value. How it will play out this season and the next two or three is something to look forward to in terms of which team will consider this trade a win or a loss. For the Rockets, this is a great upgrade if Martin plays up to his capabilities and remains relatively healthy. Hill and Armstrong could provide the needed size upfront, if they, again, play up to their potential. The trade did not really address all the team's needs as I think the PG position is still a weak position. At least Hilton and Hill could provide some sort of back up for Yao at the 5. Brooks is not a PG and with Martin and Yao, and with a relatively more experienced CBud next year, the Rockets would require a better ball distributor and a good facilitator/organizer on offense from the PG rather than a shoot first one, albeit a good one. The Rockets will be very good next year with Yao and the current one as constituted with the trade. If no upgrade in the PG position is done during the summer, Lowry should start over Brooks. Lowry is a better passer, ball distributor, playmaker and is able to organize the offense a lot better than Brooks. He may not be as good a shooter but he doesn't really need to as the Rockets with Yao, Martin, CBud, Scola and Ariza/Battier occasionally, have more than enough firepower. Brooks would really buttress the second unit with his scoring ala Vinnie Johnson. This team, as is with the trade, is much much better than a few hours ago before the trade. Morey wins this round more than the other winners Petrie and Walsh, in that the Rockets is much closer to the championship due to the trade, than the other two teams.
I reserve judgment. This trade can wind up anywhere from highway robbery to abject failure. If Martin returns to form, Hill realizes all this "potential" everyone is raving about and the Knick fail to make the big signings they're aiming for, it'll be a smashing success. On the other end of the spectrum, Martin could continue to be plagued by injuries and follow a McGrady-esque spiral into irrelevance, Hill could wind up like 90% of prospects with that tempting but usually unrewarding label and bust, and the Knicks could miraculously land some combination of Lebron, Wade, Bosh, etc. and blow all of our picks into the barren wasteland that is the late first round. I'm not ashamed to admit that I don't have faith in this move and it's amplified by the fact Landry is my favorite player since I started following the team in 2000. I am willing to admit that I could be proven completely wrong, and I do hope that I am. Right now, though, I think there's just too many variables in play to accurately grade this trade.
I hate to see Landry leave but I think Martin will be a productive Rocket as long as the injuries don't pile up. I like the picks as insurance for the future and I guess the jury is still out on Jeffries and Hill. I'm going to say the deal is somewhere between Good and Great.
Impressive. We got a guy who can help us now. And we got future picks to help the future. Unrelated, for the longest time Tracy and Yao seemed to be good friends who hung out. KevMart and Yao, I bet these two won't hang out off the court at all.
I think he gets an A+. Of course no one knows how these players will perform in the future but we got a lot for giving up basically just Carl Landry. I am sad to see him go but I think he will be great for the Kings and we will be great with a go-to scorer now.
Grade - A Of course, everyone was hoping to get a superstar in return for T-Mac's contract, but that was never realistic. To come out with a great scorer at a position of need (2 guard) with a reasonable contract, a lottery pick rookie with upside, depth at the 3, 4, and 5 positions, and then the potential for 2 lottery picks is more than any reasonable fan could ask for...and all he gave up was a guy who was banished from the team and our back-up PF. That's ridiculous! I know there's risk in Martin's injury history, lack of production with Hill, and that the Knicks picks may not be lottery picks, but Morey's at least got the cajones (and the wit to go along with it) to re-tool this team on the fly and keep us competetive while we wait for Yao's return to try to become a contender again. It's just great to have a GM that you can really trust to make the best moves possible for the organization