still don't want a wall or fence on the border? if they can smuggle 1500lbs of drugs, just imagine the explosives they can get across... then again, i guess we can question appointing a former circuit judge to a law enforcement position. http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/01/25/D8FBOSCO3.html Texas-Mexico Border Standoff Reported Jan 25 9:41 AM US/Eastern Email this story By ALICIA A. CALDWELL Associated Press Writer SIERRA BLANCA, Texas Texas law enforcement officers faced off with men dressed as Mexican Army soldiers and apparent drug suspects near the U.S.-Mexican border Tuesday, after three SUVs attempted to flee state authorities, officials said. Andrea Simmons, an agency spokeswoman in El Paso, told The Associated Press that Texas Department of Public Safety troopers chased three SUVs, believing they were carrying drugs, to the banks of the Rio Grande during Monday's incident. Men dressed in Mexican military uniforms or camouflage were on the U.S. side of the border in Texas, she said. Simmons said the FBI was not involved and referred requests for further details to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. The Inland Valley Daily Bulletin of Ontario, Calif., reported Tuesday that the incident included an armed standoff involving the Mexican military and suspected drug smugglers. The incident follows a story in the Bulletin on Jan. 15 that said the Mexican military had crossed into the United States more than 200 times since 1996. In a news conference, Rick Glancey of the Texas Border Sheriff's Coalition, said three Hudspeth County deputies and at least two Texas Department of Public Safety troopers squared off against at least 10 heavily armed men from the Mexican side of the Rio Grande. U.S. officials who pursued three fleeing SUVs to the Mexican border saw what appeared to be a Mexican military Humvee help one of the SUVs when it got stuck in the river, he said. When that didn't work, a group of men dressed in civilian clothes started unloading what appeared to be bundles of mar1juana from the SUV, and the stuck vehicle was then torched, he said. A second SUV had a flat tire and was left behind in the United States and its occupant ran across the border, he said. Glancey said he could not confirm whether the armed men seen at the site were Mexican Army, police officers, or drug dealers, and would not detail what markings deputies may have seen on the men's uniforms or the Humvee. Chief Deputy Mike Doyal of the Hudspeth County Sheriff's Department said that Mexican army personnel had several mounted machine guns on the ground more than 200 yards inside the U.S. border, the Daily Bulletin newspaper reported earlier. "It's been so bred into everyone not to start an international incident with Mexico that it's been going on for years," Doyal said. "When you're up against mounted machine guns, what can you do? Who wants to pull the trigger first? Certainly not us." Hudspeth County Sheriff Arvin West, whose officers were involved in a similar incident last year, said he is certain that Mexican authorities know who was involved. After the newspaper reported on Mexican military crossings earlier this month, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said the report was overblown and most of the incursions were just mistakes. In eastern California, Arizona and New Mexico, the U.S.-Mexico border is largely unmarked. But in Texas, the Rio Grande separates the two countries and even when dry, is a riverbed about 200 feet wide. In November, Doyal said Border Patrol agents in the border town of Fort Hancock called for help after confronting more than six men dressed in Mexican military uniforms. The men allegedly were trying to bring more than three tons of mar1juana across the Rio Grande, Doyal told the newspaper.
I heard that on NPR this morning. Made me mad. I'm pretty soft on border issues, but I don't see how we can tolerate this to continue.
I say we line the border with the military and shoot to kill. Send in some tanks, maybe some Apache helicopters.
not to de-rail the thread, but i think i'm entitled since i started it when are we going to have another dallas area viewing party?
ive been waiting for someone to start a thread on this issue... i dont know how practical a wall is though - it will definately make it harder to get across, but desperation breeds innovation - they will figure something else out. as far as the mexican army crossing our border (over 200 times since 96!), they are obviously working for the drug cartells in securing smuggling routes or doing the smuggling themselves. i dont think the mexican government is involved or authorizing this in any way, but if they cant control their own military than we need to do it for them. if u.s. military was crossing into mexico it would be a huge international incident, but when they do it no body seems to care. our government isnt even concerned about it. homeland security dude chertoff said its "not an issue". ive also heard about mexican military being involved in "hits" and planting carbombs on u.s. soil against rival drug gangs. i would like to see our military patrolling - even send the national guard down there. when they catch mexican military crossing over attempt to detain and if they refuse than shoot to kill. these guys are armed to the teeth and on our soil - if that isnt a threat to our "homeland security" than what is? what they are doing is an act of war and its shamefull that our government isnt responding. again, if the mexican government cant contain their own troops than we need to do it for them. if we need to cross their borders chasing these guys down than so be it. if we need to chase them back to districto federal than so be it. ...FROM THE HALLS OF MONTEZUMA!!!
Long walls don't work. Long walls don't work, Part II Long walls don't work, Part III Long walls don't work, part IV
Haha, I was thinking of Hadrian's Wall to answer the hysteria that immigrants will take back the lands we annexed after the Mexican War.
anybody hear about the clause in the Treaty of Guadalupe Hildalgo that says i 2036 if the number of mexican immigrants outnumbers americans texas goes back to mexico? i think its bs, but then again i haven't read the treaty.
to be fair, the maginot line worked just fine...it worked so well that the germans didnt even try to break it. they just went around it instead.
