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Head and Bonzi Wells!!!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by poseyistheman, Feb 24, 2007.

  1. poseyistheman

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    I think we really need to look at these 2 players and what they are producing on the floor. In the past 3 or 4 games Head has been absolutly horrible....shooting the ball,passing the ball and defending other players. Bonzi Wells has been also playing horribly the past few games and for that matter all season long. When those 2 guys are struggling and your rotation according to JVG is only 8 guys deep you must look down the bench and play a guy like Kirk Snyder or John Lucas. I'm not saying play them if the other 8 are doing well I'm simpley saying if guys are not on and you need a boost of athletic ability and speed on the court why not play Snyder and Lucas? We lost to Dallas because Jeff would not play Snyder and we lost last night because JVG would not play Snyder or Lucas. Why have these guys on the bench if your not going to play them? Bonzi Wells won't even be here next season as he has already said as much but Kirk Snyder will be and we need him right now. PLEASE JEFF STOP BEING REGID WITH THIS ROTATION. PLAY SNYDER!!!
     
  2. DaDakota

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    Head has earned the right to struggle for a bit....and he is taking on a new role as the backup PG.....so I give him some time to get comfortable.

    On the other hand, I have had it with Bonzi....his lackadasical lazy defense, bad attitude, fat out of shape butt....should be glued to the pine.

    He does not fit, has not fit, and will NEVER fit on this team.

    It is time to end the Bonzi experiment and get Snyder back in there....

    I thought our mantra this year was to get more athletic to matchup with our main competition in the west.

    Instead, we have gone the opposite direction and that will probably result in a decent regular season record and another first round exit.

    Bonzi is gone after this year....and the ONLY competitive team he helps us against is the Spurs.....he is not athletic enough to stick with the Mavs, Jazz, or Suns......who can guard him with longer/quicker players.

    Even against the Spurs, Bonzi is a defensive liability.

    Synder should not have lost his spot due to injury....and he will be here next year and maybe longer.....

    Jettison the Bonz....the experiment failed.

    DD
     
  3. DieHard Rocket

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    I agree that Snyder should be given more opportunities, depending on the matchup. At least if Head and/or Bonzi are struggling, get Snyder in there and see what he can do. It's pretty simple really...on any given night just play the two guys who are performing better. Once Yao gets back, we may not need Bonzi's inside presence as much, so we could see more of Snyder then.
     
  4. Ziggy

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    One of my favorite attributes in Avery Johnson is his willingness to change the rotation on the fly if it favors the matchup or a player is struggling. Van Gundy is just too stubborn. If Alston or Head is struggling then he should insert someone else who may be hot that night, or throw off the opponents gameplan.

    Its one of the few gripes I have with JVG.
     
  5. TTRocket

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    Head is too 1 dimensional and short. Bonzi is taking too long to lose weight and be dominant if ever...

    And Rafer's FG % is still the lowest in the league

    It's going to be hard getting to the WCF this yr...
     
  6. agentkirb

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    I dunno. Bonzi can randomly have a really good game sometimes. Last night against Miami he did pretty good, 5-7 from the field 5 rebounds, 2 steals a block in 22 minutes. This game nothing really good other than 6 rebounds in 20 minutes. I think thats one of the reasons why JVG likes Bonzi over Snyder. Bonzi right now in the 20 minutes a game he plays every night he averages about 5 rebounds a game. For a gaurd thats pretty good, the only players averaging more than that per 40 minutes are all low post guys.

    I'm also starting to wonder if us playing him has anything to do with his plans for next year. Perhaps he's shown intrest in coming back. Because if we just had him on the bench all season he wouldn't want to play for us anymore, and a Bonzi in mid-season form is always something good to have. Right now he still isn't bad, he's a big gaurd who can get some rebounds for us and give us a mismatch inside. If he gets his shot back, watch out.
     
  7. hooroo

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    Head's been struggling ever since Yao's been out.

    Bonzi is good for at least one team, the Spurs.

    That said time to give Snyder decent minutes.
     
  8. agentkirb

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    I kinda agree. He doesn't like to change it up unless its not working. And w/e, as long as he's winning games I dont give a **** how he does it. Games like this will happen every now and then. And I hate how people are blaming the offense when they shot above their average from the field. The problem was the defense. The Hawks hit 4% more from the field than usual and took 40 FTs. Thats just horrible.
     
  9. Rockets Dynasty

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    They needed to trade Wells and play Snyder and JVG is nuts for not playing V-Span no matter what arm-chair fans that have zero ability to see NBA talent say to the contrary.



    It is absolutely ridiculous that Head is the backup PG and that when that fails Lucas comes in and plays the role of 5-10 SG that can't defend anyone.

    Spanoulis is so much better at PG than either of them it isn't even remotely amusing anymore what JVG is doing and it is sickening that fans are backing him on it.

    As for Wells why the hell they didn't ship him to Detroit when they had the chance apparently is beyond me, especially when Synder needs to play.

    Snyder is exactly what is needed against a team like Dallas, Bonzi is just a fat out of shape cancer.

    He seriously looks about 250 pounds outh there.
     
  10. agentkirb

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    Right... JVG is the worst coach ever, doing all these things wrong, yet he's in every conversation for Coach of the Year. If its ain't broke, dont fix it. Thats all I'm saying.
     
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    ditto

    well, it was pretty broke against the hawks. just because we've got a winning % doesn't mean we're playing winning basketball every game. if it's broken during a given game, i would like to see someone do something to try and fix it besides waiting for the next game.
     
  12. WhoMikeJames

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    Head doesn't play as well without Yao. He also needs to improve his decision making and ball handling.
     
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    JVG is riding the good play of TMac. TMac is the one that should be considered for MVP instead of JVG.
     
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    One bad game for the Rockets is not the end of the world. They beat Miami and probably just looked past the Hawks, plus the Hawks got hot.

    BONZI IS THE REASON WHY WE CAN BE DALLAS. Not just the Spurs.

    If you watched the last Dallas game. When Dallas went small, Houston matched. And it was Bonzi who was taking it to the hole. What happened, Dallas brought Dampier back in. I remember seeing this twice. Bonzi's ability to post up and be a scorer will be important to beating Dallas. Dallas's ability to remove Yao from the game by going small will be greatly compromised by the addition of Bonzi with T-mac.

    Head will come back around, he is just having a bad stretch of games.

    I do agree that JVG does need to mix it up a bit when the Rockets are playing so poorly. If you are on your way to a lose, might as well try and find lightning in a bottle from the bench.
     
  15. DonkeyMagic

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    Head has earned the right to struggle for a bit....and he is taking on a new role as the backup PG.....so I give him some time to get comfortable.

    right on.

    as for bonzi, i think jvg has given him a fair shot (maybe too fair) to prove himself and be as good as he could be. Lets face it, if bonzi plays up to his abilities he will be big for this team.

    But im getting less patient and i wouldt be surprised if jvg is also. kirk might start seeing some minutes soon
     
  16. Dr of Dunk

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    So when we lose, I assume it's the player(s)' fault as well? Of course not... then it's JVG's fault. :D
     
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    Head has had enough time to play the pg position and what he has done has not earn the spot. Why not let VSpan give it another shot, Lucas has had his and he didn't get it done. VSpan can do the job if let to make the same mistakes Head has made. I am sure he will improve with time and his bigger and can play D.
     
  18. Desert Scar

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    Well if the player looks tired and is missing his shots isn't it the coaches job to try someone else. A pridefull player won't ask out, that is why you need a coach.

    I agree. Against Dallas and Phx there are easier buckets penetrating and you don't want to settle for jumpshots, a game both teams are better at than we are. And I agree Bonzi with Tmac in the wings forces Dallas to play a bigger slower lineup.

    Bonzi isn't 100%, but that isn't a terrible thing. He might peak right in time for the playoffs.

    But I still want to see Snyder. I don't like the insistence only 1 is in the rotation. Most of the regular rotation players are playing 3-4-5 more minutes than they need to. We have Battier and Rafer at 37, Tmac at 36, and Deke at a totally unsustainable (for him) 20. Head and Howard can probably come down a couple as well. Keep giving steady minutes to Bonzi so he can keep getting more in shape and integrated, but find other SG and SF minutes for Snyder as well.

    Now look at the Spurs, their trifecta (Duncan, Manu, Parker) are averaging 32MPG among them and IMO they have worse substitutes by and large than we do. But they have the bigger picture of being preped and freshed for the playoffs (though I don't think they will have enough after their big 3 to win the west, they will probably give a good fight to whomever beats them).

    One cannot deny Popovich has a better track record in the playoffs than JVG and I much like SA's rotations.
     
  19. tiger0330

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    Weren't you the guy that wanted to draft JJ Redick with the 8th pick. Good looking out with your NBA scouting buddy. VSpan will never be a starting PG with an NBA team, more likely he asks the Rox to terminate his contract and heads back to Greece this off season.
     
  20. ShadyMcGrady

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    The only way Snyder is getting minutes is if Bonzi is injured again.

    If he is, I would love to see if that one game against Charlotte was a fluke or not by Snyder BECAUSE hustle, athleticism, and eye for the ball are not flukes, and Snyder showed all of those things. Plus, wasn't he the one who got right to pumping weights that one day after the game?

    Snyder needs more minutes, but that doesn't mean Bonzi needs to go.

    Oh well, JVG, do what you will, you are the head coach, but beware, one more first round exit and it's over. :mad:
     

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