Hopefully Eddie has found a home with a team where being able to take a dribble without travelling isn't required.
Don't forget though that without Eddie, we could never have sucked as bad as we did in 01-02, so your lineup would have to exclude Ming. Fate does suck in this case, but it's fate for a reason.
IMO, Eddie will flourish in the interior weak East. The Rox front office is gonna be made to look like outright assclowns.
I must admit I'm really irritated about the EG situation. Nets got all 4 players. We ended up getting nothing but trouble. Add to that we got nothing in return for his loss. Sheesh, I dont know who or what to blame, but its still damn irritating.
Every investments has a upside and downside risk. I'd say this one was a Net Loss. you win some, you lose some ...
Can anyone acknowledge that releasing Griffen was clearly JVG's decision. Yes Les had some input and to a lesser degree CD as well but in the end it was JVG's decision to release him. So whether you agree that it was a stupid decision or the right decision at least acknowledge that it was Jvg's decision. Cd roll has always been to accomodate and advise the coach. He is not and has never pulled the plug on any major decision on his on. So if you want to blame someone for drafting Griffen than blame Rudy. Rudy look at the Rockets needs and what was available and Cd provided all the necessary info and talked to everyone about moving up but in the end Rudy said let;s do it. What do we want three draft choices to ride the pine lets go after a potential starter and maybe even a star in this league. The same with Nachbar Rudy flew down and loked at him and said this guy is our pick. And when the Rockets considering not resigning EG Cd said to JVG nobody wants him and JVG said well then why should we want him. Then Les said jumps in and adds well he is definitely a headache a nd a major disappointment but we did give up 3 first round picks for him but if you think we should dump him Jeff, than let's do it. And Jeff says yeah it is probably best. And that is the end of the story. So you may say what kind of GM is CD if he has no power to make his on decisions . Well he is actually very much like most GM's in the league. Only a small percentage get such power to do whatever they want. West., Jackson. Riley when he was around. And still they consult with the coach with their opinions about possible trades and pickups. But the rest pretty much try to to advise and assist the coach. JVG say's look Cd I don't want Rice on this team let's trade him, get rid of him no matter what it takes and Cd checks around and says the only offer I got is Utah but they want 2 first round picks. ANd Jvg says I don't care let's get rid of him. And Cd says you're the boss... Jvg says I still don't like are small forward spot. And CD says Jim Jackson is interested in signing with us and JVG says let's do it. Cd says to JVG nobody wants Eddie and JVG says well then why should we want him, lets dump him and CD okay boss. Now of course their are variations and some circumstances but mostly that's they way it works. So you can blame CD all you want but in the end most of the blame should rest with the coaches oh and then there is the owners input as well.
Man you guys are bumming me the hell out. And noone has even brought up we have nothing to show for Kenny Thomas or Collier. Next up Nachbar, and then I really tear some sheit up.
This was obviously just bad luck for Houston. Eddie wouldn't be in the position he's in today if he was never traded. Who knows, he might have been shot or put in jail for fights, or been clean. That mar1juana possession was bad luck because of the nature of how he was pulled over. It wouldn't have happened anywhere else; bad timing. Simple as that. The domestic assault wouldn't have happened and he wouldn't have a kid now (or maybe he would have 2 or 3 with another woman/guy). She was a local woman, right? I'm not defending the Rockets organization, because it wasn't their fault all this **** happened. Now I'll be hypocritical and say it wasn't bad luck either. Eddie ****ed up. He's a hopeless dumb****. I wish him the best in his life, but the guy has too much going on to succeed at a career. He's the next Shawn Kemp.
Well, nothing else I can say except we got raped up the ass with New Jersey. I'm still just in disbelief that it ended the way it did. It wouldn't have been as bad if Griffin had just signed with a different team either, but to go to NJ is just like spitting on somebody after you knock them out.l
Mr. Mooch, Shawn Kemp actually amounted to something at one point in his career, and up until the 1996-1997 or 1997-1998 season, he was a flat-out stud. Therefore, to equate Eddie Griffin, who hasn't accomplished crap in his 2 yrs. in the leaugue, with a 13 yr. veteran (who, despite his decline after the Sonics signed 7 ft. stiff Jim McIllvane to a fat contract instead of re-signing Kemp, who the Sonics shipped to the Cavs in order to get Vin Baker from the Bucks) is an over-statement that needs correction. P1st, S2nd
Good riddance. No point in reflecting on the past that CAN'T be changed. It's not like repeating the same bull**** that's been spouted as long as I can remember will help resolve the issue or make it any better. I can understand the need to vent but jeez how many threads of venting does it take? Shouldn't there just be a sticky thread titled "Come here if you want to b**** about the 2001 Draft pick when the Rockets chose Eddie Griffin in place of 3 1st round draft picks." I haven't been fond of CD either but I'd much rather worry about the Rockets current status and how to improve it then to continue complaining about past decisions that can't be changed. We all know CD has made some big blunders as GM. I know I personally wouldn't mind to see him go either, but truthfully there really isn't anybody else out there that has a better resume then him. I think once the salary cap is gone, the Rockets will be able to put in a plethora of players that are looking for big bucks. I don't know the current financial status of the Rockets right now, but I'd think with the emergence of Ming and the fact that the Rockets pretty much a whole country supporting them that they're raking in the dough. It's not as though the Rockets are cheapskates so I think as far as attracting big name players we have a bright future ahead of us. Barring making more bad contract moves on mediocre players like the Mavs (i.e signing LaFrentz to an enormous contract that they got lucky in getting rid of.), they're actually in pretty good shape. I'd much rather think ahead for a bright future then reflect on an unfortunate past.
January 31 Rockets vs. Nets This is a month after Eddie begins training, so I'm guessing he'll have some games under his belt and will be back in shape. It will be interesting.
It really does hurt so much, I think that we have nothing like Eddie. His defense really would have helped this year. He's inconsistent, but only guys like Lebron James are consistent at that age. I hope that he does well, but I feel so enraged about it right now. I also feel however that it's not neccessarily management's fault, oh well, c'est la vie. It's happened to us before, and we'll be burned again, but just move on.
So... is the curfew waived now ? Is some sort of work-related allowance to be made in order for Griff to play for NJ ? ...or did I miss something ?
... Once again, unless it's a day game, Griffin CANNOT play due to his court-imposed curfew. Here's a question: Let's say the Rockets kept ALL THREE draft picks in 2001. Isn't it possible that the team would today be in dire salary cap trouble due to guaranteed money? Sure, the hypothetical contracts would end after this season (with an option for a fourth year), but I would think our roster makeup would be VASTLY different today. Not only would we NOT have Yao, but THREE roster spots would have been tied-up by the 2001 rookies. (And knowing our recent draft history, would you rather have THREE guys languishing on the bench or just ONE?) ... But yes, it IS a tough pill to swallow. If I ever make it out to a Nets game next year, I'm booing the living hell out of Griffin. He chose to sign with the Nets and make the Rockets look like complete morons. (Yes, he probably got more money with NJ than anywhere else, prompting him to sign with them, and the team he chose probably was a coincidence. Still, his ass is getting booed, damnit!)
I remember just this summer you guys were saying you wouldn't trade Eddie and Yao for Tim Duncan...now you want to fire the GM.
