1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Gillispie to Arkansas?

Discussion in 'NBA Draft' started by gucci888, Mar 26, 2007.

  1. RocketManJosh

    RocketManJosh Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2003
    Messages:
    5,881
    Likes Received:
    726
    Oh and another data point of Arkansas' delusional thoughts is that the Dem-Gaz paper lists candidates for the job which include Gillispie, Tim Floyd, Lon Kruger, and Bill Self.

    Does anyone in Arkansas really believe they are going to pull Bill Self from Kansas? The Razorbacks need to get over themselves and fast.
     
  2. jakedasnake

    jakedasnake Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2002
    Messages:
    2,731
    Likes Received:
    1,675
    Yeah and its not like A&M won't be able to pay him whatever he wants. Other than monetary reasons(which A&M can handle just as well as Arkansas) why would this move be better for him? He is getting one of the best recruits in Texas next year and returning some key players as well as losing some. I would not understand this move if he did it.
     
  3. jakedasnake

    jakedasnake Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2002
    Messages:
    2,731
    Likes Received:
    1,675
    What have you done for me lately? And we are getting one of the most highly touted center recruits in the nation next year. I think it is more of a challenge and more rewarding when you take a school with zero history and make history with that school. I am pretty sure Gillispie loves a challenge oh and your arena is bigger than ours. That kind of makes sense why you would have more people than us...because more people can fit.
     
  4. rhino17

    rhino17 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2006
    Messages:
    18,025
    Likes Received:
    4,436
    I'm just saying, as of right now, in the present, A&M is a better program than Arkansas
     
  5. leroy

    leroy Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2002
    Messages:
    27,355
    Likes Received:
    11,216
    The first post is in triplicate. I was just playing along...
     
  6. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    100,867
    Likes Received:
    103,171
    UH would stack up reasonably well in those categories too. Nobody is going to argue that UH is a better program than A&M.
     
  7. weslinder

    weslinder Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2006
    Messages:
    12,983
    Likes Received:
    291
    No one but a homer would argue that A&M is a better program than Arkansas. The question is whether it's enough of a step up to warrant leaving.

    Honestly, I can only think of one reason to leave A&M for Arkansas: Upcoming sanctions. I've heard that the Antoine Wright comments have prompted investigations. I've heard vague rumblings of some wrongdoing.
     
  8. rhino17

    rhino17 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2006
    Messages:
    18,025
    Likes Received:
    4,436
    I'm not an A&M fan, but right now, they have a much better team, and better recruits. In the present, they are a better program
     
  9. weslinder

    weslinder Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2006
    Messages:
    12,983
    Likes Received:
    291
    One year does not a program make.
     
  10. SirCharlesFan

    SirCharlesFan Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 1999
    Messages:
    6,028
    Likes Received:
    143
    Look, I'm on record as saying I think it is unlikely Gillispie is going to Arkansas. But this is a joke to compare UH and Arkansas right now. Arkansas is in a power conference, plays in a relatively new 20,000 seat arena, and has more fan support in a down year than UH will ever have. UH is in a 1 bid conference, plays in a dilapidated arena at a commuter school and hasn't won a NCAA tournament game in 23 years and is best known for one of the all-time choke jobs in NCAA tournament history.
     
  11. rhino17

    rhino17 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2006
    Messages:
    18,025
    Likes Received:
    4,436

    who has the better team for the next few. years?
     
  12. BullFan

    BullFan Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2001
    Messages:
    500
    Likes Received:
    4
    Arkansas might be willing to pay BCG r****ded money.

    A&M has the resources to match and offer obviously, but they probably won't be willing to pay BCG equal to or more than Franchione.
     
  13. weslinder

    weslinder Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2006
    Messages:
    12,983
    Likes Received:
    291
    Arkansas has a better team for next year. They're really young. If Gillespie leaves, whether for Arkansas or elsewhere, Arkansas will be better for the foreseeable future. Coaches leading a historically weak program to short-term success happens all the time in college basketball. That success is rarely sustainable.
     
  14. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    100,867
    Likes Received:
    103,171
    Ding Ding Ding!!!

    Now you're making the persuasive argument.

    All that historical stuff is just noise.
     
  15. RocketManJosh

    RocketManJosh Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2003
    Messages:
    5,881
    Likes Received:
    726
    You are also forgetting the 20 million dollar practice facility and other things that A&M is putting into the program. The A&M AD is making a committment to basketball which has not happened at A&M in a long time. Things are changing so you can't base how well the program will do based on how they have done.

    That said, I agree that Arkansas might have the better team next year. They are losing no one and should get nothing but better. I think A&M has all the attributes (resources/recruiting potential/power conference) to make it into a very good program and not just a one or two good year type of program. Sure they probably wont be a Kansas, but I think we could reach the success that a Texas has had easily.
     
  16. Icehouse

    Icehouse Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2000
    Messages:
    13,655
    Likes Received:
    4,023
    Sorry Ag fans, but A&M is not a better program than Arkansas. If Billy G. leaves I wouldn't be suprised to see the program fold. Arkansas strength is tied to the school, not the coach.
     
  17. weslinder

    weslinder Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2006
    Messages:
    12,983
    Likes Received:
    291
    And that gives A&M a better chance of hiring another good coach after Gillespie leaves. (They should look in their own system. Ronnie Arrow has done a heck of a job in Corpus.) But there have been other schools do the same thing on similar short-term success and end up with nice facilities for a mediocre program.
     
  18. gucci888

    gucci888 Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    17,227
    Likes Received:
    6,573
    You say Fox Sports has a horrible history of printing incorrect stories yet you're using them to prove me wrong? Like I posted, I never said you were wrong but if it came down to Fox Sports or someone's blog, I'm gonna go w/ Fox Sports.

    "He said that everything out there was false, that if he ever left he'd let us all know first." This quote doesn't say anything more than that he is thinking about about leaving and has already indicated that he might.
     
  19. RocketManJosh

    RocketManJosh Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2003
    Messages:
    5,881
    Likes Received:
    726
    My point was that Fox Sports rewrote their story, which means they are basically admitting what they said in the first place was wrong. The "blog" is from a sports reporter just like Fox Sports story is. The Fox Sports story could be construed as that writer's blog to begin with. There is no difference. I could understand your point if I just pointed you to some fan blog or something like this. Richard Justice and a lot of other guys have blogs as well. Does that mean the stories and facts they put in their blog are any less believable than the stories they write?

    The quote from the recruit 100% proved my point. My point was that the original FoxSports story was completely inaccurate because it stated that Gillispie had already agreed to a deal with Arkansas. That was completely false making that original article false as well (or should I say they had a bad source). I have never said Gillispie won't go to Arkansas, just that there was not a deal already in place like the Fox Sports "story" said.
     
    #39 RocketManJosh, Mar 27, 2007
    Last edited: Mar 27, 2007
  20. RocketManJosh

    RocketManJosh Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2003
    Messages:
    5,881
    Likes Received:
    726
    I never said they were going to turn into a stellar program. I said they will be competitive which is much more than a few years ago. The point is that everything is in place for A&M to become a program similar to that of Texas and Arkansas. What precludes that from being a possibility in your mind? I've never said we are going to be a Kentucky or Kansas because we all know football comes first in Texas.

    I realize there are teams such as George Mason or others that have one good year, but then fade to obscurity for obvious reasons.

    My whole point is to refute the fact that Gillispie can't win consistently at A&M and should go to Arkansas because it is historically better. History has nothing to do with it now.

    I do think A&M might have a down year next year with all the players we are losing, but unlike before they will be decent, but young. They have the top recruit from both Oklahoma and Texas coming in. It's not like good programs dont have down years. I mean this supposed powerhouse that is Arkansas has not been ranked in the top 25 for something like 5 years.
     

Share This Page