FP

So basically, you guys support the whole "find a man and change him into the guy you want and make him abandon everything that makes him who he is" theory that a lot of women seem to adhere to?

Personally, I have plenty of self-motivation to do what I need to do. If I just did what other people consider successful, I just would've gone to work for someone else straight out of college and never done anything of note with my life.

While I agree there are certain rules to the games people have to play, abandoning one's self should not be one of those rules.

And, for that matter, there's plenty of unrealistic views toward beauty that makes attractive women change themselves into less attractive beings (this whole "living skeleton" look is not only probably unhealthy, it's unattractive).

 

I'm pretty sure that FP can be decomposed into 4 fourier transforms accounting for A) MF B) AF C) BS and D) AnC.

 

dirty.

mother's fatness, arm fat, bone structure, and ankle circumference.

 

Uhh... no.. where are you coming up with that? I never said a woman should change her man (or vice versa). I said that people should put a higher priority on their own appearance.

Again - we're talking about physical appearances, not career decisions.

Just 'cause you improve your appearance, doesn't mean you have to "abandon one's self".

True. Moderation should be used in almost all things. Don't be so careless about your appearance that people immediately are repelled by you, but also don't be so absorbed with your appearance that you turn in to a psycho skeleton person.

Be in good shape. Dress well. Take care in your appearance. It's physically and mentall healthy. It makes you feel better about yourself. And it makes others, who spend time with you, feel good, too.

-- droxford

 

It's 100 degrees out there. Dressing well doesn't make me feel better. It makes me feel considerably worse.

And other people being dressed better doesn't help me at all. Don't know how my dressing better would change the world at all (except that I certainly wouldn't be as pleasant to others since I would be so uncomfortable).

I doubt anyone is repelled by me or anything like that, but I'm certainly not dressing at the top of my game on a day to day basis because I don't have to be. The shorts and t-shirts I wear are relatively nice as shorts and t-shirts go, but I would hardly consider them to fall under the category of "dressed nicely".

There are plenty of people who are considered fat or obese who simply aren't (my ex-wife is 5'0 and maybe 120 at her heaviest. She dated a guy once who broke up with her because he thought she was too fat. She was anything but). But this contention that most of America is overweight leads to all this serial dieting that leads to very unhealthy lifestyles. There are people who simply cannot be the weight the BFI says they should be (my father is in excellent shape and health, but he's obese by the BFI chart).

We judge by our own standards, and those standards don't often fit all. If we look like Lindsay Lohan and are called fat, then perhaps the problem is with the person making the standard rather than the person being judged.

Uhh... no.. where are you coming up with that? I never said a woman should change her man (or vice versa). I said that people should put a higher priority on their own appearance.

It came from generally being against the "accept me as I am" thing. If you say your opposition to that ends with appearance, then I misread you, and I apologize for that.

But seriously, if there's a person out there who doesn't want to know me because I wear shorts and t-shirts every day, then that's a person I didn't want to know anyway.

 

You gotta wear what makes you feel comfortable man.