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End of The Simpson's??

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  1. rockHEAD

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    kinda long, but thought I would post the whole thing...

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    Staying animated

    Jim Pickard
    Published: April 29 2002 09:41GMT | Last Updated: April 29 2002 12:40GMT

    This may come as a surprise to Channel 4, which has just secured the UK rights to The
    Simpsons for £1m a show, but the most popular TV programme in the world could be on its
    last legs. Not that Matt Groening, the show's genial creator, who was in Bristol last weekend
    to open the Animated Encounters festival, puts it quite like that.

    However, he's the first to admit that "it becomes increasingly difficult as the years go by to
    keep on not only surprising the audience, but surprising ourselves".

    When The Simpsons was first put out as a stand-alone series in 1989 it attracted a great
    deal of criticism in the US, particularly from the Christian right. But the show has now
    become so popular that it usually stays out of trouble, says Groening. For instance, no one
    wrote in to complain when, in one show, Homer smoked cannabis to relieve his pain.

    Now on its 13th series, playing to more than 60m people in 60 countries - exceeding even
    Baywatch in its prime - the Simpsons have become global icons. The power of the brand is
    such that Brazilian tourism officials were up in arms over a recent episode showing the
    family visiting Rio de Janeiro, where they were kidnapped, robbed and attacked by monkeys.

    But while Groening, a middle-aged, bearded character, seems almost bemused by the
    programme's success, he senses that its days may be numbered.

    "I think we are closer to winding it up," he says. "Although what happens generally if we win
    the Emmy for best animation show is that that gives us another couple of years to run it into
    the ground."

    Fox, the Rupert Murdoch-owned channel which has shown The Simpsons for the past 13
    years - and is said to have made more than $1bn out of it - would be happy to continue
    forever, he says. "I think Fox will wring every last penny out of the show before they call it a
    day."

    The relationship between Groening and his paymasters has been a textbook case study of
    artist-manager conflict. "I have made them billions of dollars, so there is a trace of a smile in
    their faces when I walk into the room," he says.

    But Groening is unhappy about Fox's handling of Futurama, his animated science fiction
    show. Now in its fourth series, Futurama is Groening's comic vision of the future, which
    owes much visually to The Simpsons, but is a very different kettle of fish.

    While Fox is showing this season of the series, it has refused to order another, blaming
    slipping ratings.

    The Simpsons was always going to be a hard act to follow; Groening says he feels like Paul
    McCartney after the break-up of the Beatles. But as far as he is concerned, the problem with
    Futurama is that Fox doesn't understand it.

    "They haven't really supported it. I think it's a worthy companion to The Simpsons and we're
    really proud of it. But Fox gave it a bad slot and zero promotion for the last three years."

    Critical interference has been another, intermittent problem. "I was getting notes from them
    which contradicted themselves. The show was getting further away from what I wanted to
    do," he says. "They would write notes like: 'These characters are too mean.' I thought, you
    could say that about the Simpsons, but if they had been nice we wouldn't be talking today."

    However, he is determined to prove Fox wrong about Futurama, and he is not alone in his
    campaign for the programme. An internet petition - not organised by Groening - has already
    collected 105,000 signatures of fans who want to save the series.

    If Futurama is dumped, Groening has several other ideas in development. He describes them
    as "similar" in design to The Simpsons and Futurama. The characters will look like relatives of
    those characters with the classic "mouth overbites".

    Given how important The Simpsons is to the network, couldn't Groening threaten to break
    away from Fox unless they show Futurama? "That really wouldn't be my style," he says.

    No doubt the outcry would be even larger if The Simpsons was to be canned. But while
    Groening suggests declining inspiration for the programme, he still has a few ideas.

    One of the most obvious themes of the show is that people in authority do not always have
    the best motives. And that, too, applies to big business.

    Groening is set to poke fun at Enron and Anderson in his next series, while Krusty the Clown
    will run for Congress with the endorsement of several real-life politicians.

    "The fact is that there is a lot of fast food out there and shoddy toys and your newspaper is
    full of stories about the people who provide this stuff."

    Although this is a tad rich coming from the man who spawned tens of thousands of
    Simpsons paraphernalia including T-shirts, tea towels and bubble bath, the anti-establishment
    streak in Groening seems to spur him on.

    "I think there is a lot of corporate irresponsibility. Consumers are bombarded with
    commercials and hype and propaganda and I think it's healthy to provide a
    counter-message," he says.

    But despite such ideas, there is a sense that he has become increasingly detached from the
    creative process. He has a team of 20 writers putting together The Simpsons and he says
    his suggestions often get over-ruled.

    Having to manage his own production company - it makes Futurama but not The Simpsons -
    which has about 50 employees, including animators and post-production staff, also may
    have affected the level of involvement in The Simpsons.

    "I wear two hats," he admits. "One is as the cranky cartoonist, but I also have to worry about
    a lot of people and be a manager and boost morale and all that stuff. I'm not particularly fond
    of the stuff which takes me away from the creative side."

    For several years, there has been talk of a Simpsons film. Many fans think the programme
    could make the leap to the big screen, just as South Park did.

    As far as Groening is concerned, however, it is not clear whether Fox wants it or not.
    Creating a 30-minute programme is very different from making a 90-minute film, and he is
    wary that a poor movie could affect the television show.

    He is concerned about "jumping the shark", a phrase which refers to that defining moment
    when a TV programme has reached its peak. The phrase comes from a 1977 episode of US
    sitcom Happy Days, in which its main character, the Fonz, ditches his motorcycle for water
    skis and attempts to jump over a shark - after that, the legend goes, the show ceased to be
    funny.

    But Groening is also pragmatic about the show's shelf-life. "Because animation is such an
    intensely painstaking process, it wears people out, and audiences are always looking for
    surprises. When any character is as stupid as Homer Simpson, it's hard to keep surprising
    the audience."
     
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    maybe. maybe no.
     
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    Jumping the Shark website
     
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    so that's what jumping the shark comes from, cool.

    really does suck about futurama, funny show but it was always getting knocked out by NFL games or just the fact it had a crappy 6 pm on sunday time slot made me forget to watch it.

    we need to save it so i can watch more episodes and we need to save family guy. i didn't almost ever watch it until people on here were complaining about it being cancelled and now i try to watch it whenever i can tape friends b/c family guy is absolutely hilarious.

    as for the simpson's, it will be sad when the end comes but its on its last legs anyway. the show i saw this week (not sure if it was new or repeat) was damn funny but the show just isn't what it used to be. however, being the funniest damn thing on tv for 8 or 9 years isn't too bad.

    favorite moment: x-files episode, mulder and scully giving homer a lie detector test.

    agent: "now homer this is a lie detector test, we will ask you questions and you answer yes or no, do you understand"

    homer: "yes"

    and then the lie detector explodes. it was so damn funny the last time i saw it cuz i remembered it exploding but i had no idea it was just from him saying yes to he understood.
     

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