SG/SF/PG: Adam Morrison, Brandon Roy, Rudy Guy, Rodney Carney, JJ Redick, Randy Foye... Big Man: Aldridge, Tyrus Thomas, Andrea Barnani, Shelden Williams.... All these should be able help the Rockets right away.... Who else can be added to the list?
Again, I may be wrong here since a lot will change between now and late June ... maybe Redick eases all concerns about the other aspects of his game that don't involve shooting. But I think if we want Redick and feel he is worth a top ten pick, then we can probably stop concerning ourselves with whether "our guy" will fall to us or not. I'm sure we could take Redick -- I can't see anyone before 8 or 9 taking him with the threes and fours that would be on the board. My point is I wouldn't put Redick in that top 7 or 8 group just yet.
i don't think even the posters who want to draft redicjk think he's capable of being a starter. yet, they want to waste a lottery pick on him. oh yeah, tiago splitter could be added to that list.
As of today, people should see how being #6 or #7 in the draft is that important. We could get Roy or Carney but then, between now and June, things may change... say if Noah and Josh McRoberts declare....
Isn't it logical that some of the eligible fence-sitters this year will come in THIS year to avoid the crowded draft class next which will be filled with guys who come out after their sophomore or junior seasons and, on top of that, those who come out after their mandatory freshman season? If I were eligible this year and could go Lottery this year or late First Round next year, I think I'd be tempted to go this year.
i just dont see how noah passes this up he is slated at espn to go first in there mock draft. yeah yeah matt leinart, tim duncan. it just doesnt happen that often. and by the way neither of those players won after coming back after giving up being the #1 pick.
See, I just don't understand why people don't consider the national college player of the year a top pick? The guy averaged like 27ppg for Duke in the best conference in the NCAA. He is gonna be special, IMHO. None of the guys at Duke who have been successful in the pros, Battier, Brand, Magette, Hill, Laetner etc..etc..etc...were that good in college. I think Reddick is gonna be very good in the pros in the right situation, if he was on Phoenix he would score 22ppg as a rookie....he needs someone that can get him shots, and I think he would have that here in Houston. Yao Ming or Tmac would have a legitimate outside scoring threat in Redick, and the guy is flat out smart and a competitor, Man, I want him on the Rockets..... DD
I couldn't agree with you more. It seems like every time I think about it I want him on the team more. He just seems like a perfect fit.
Why is this thread turn into a Redick discussion again? I started this intended to list out all the options we had at #8 and the their pirorities. Say like if somehow we got the top 3 pick, we won't take Redick!
Having looked at the players that have declared, the deadline is April 29th, the draft seems to gotten deeper... at least to where the Rockets are picking at #8. The player that I like and think would fit in well with the team is Brandon Roy. He seems like the consumate role player that can do a little of everything. If Roy is gone then I look hard at Shelden Williams, although his propensity to disappear at times has me a little leary. I'd also look hard at Reddick because the guy can flat out shoot and we need a player that can knock down an open shot, but his lack of defense on guys who will have at least two to three inches on him has me thinking twice. I wouldn't mind taking Tiago Splitter, but I think his contract will be too difficult and costly to get out of so that he can play in the NBA next season. I'd pass on Randy Foye, we already have an undersized SG in Luther Head. Rodney Carney and Ronnie Brewer could be interesting aditions as well. I think this draft is not a particularly deep one in "franchise" players, but could definitely net a very good role player, and with Yao and TMac a good role player is all the Rockets really need.
What? Laettner is probably on everyone's All-Time College Team... From his freshman year to his senior year, he dominated through will and talent and was a national player of the year, Wooden Award winner, etc. Battier led his team to a championship, won the Wooden and Naismith Awards, and was considered the best senior in his class. Magette came out too early, same as Brand, but he was the unanimous national player of the year. Hill, though overshadowed by Laettner, was a stud, a defensive player of the year, and led his team to the finals.
Noah's smart, he knows he's not ready for the pros yet, developing his game more will in theory get him a better 2nd NBA contract, where the big money is. Plus Noah's well off financially so he can resist the cash.
yeah that was an all-timer from DD. to give a list of 5 guys who you say didn't do much in college when 3 of them were players of the year is kind of amazing. and DD, why do you think redick will be so great. i like duke and like redick, but the guy couldn't create his own shot against some random guy from lsu, how will he do it in the nba? and it's not like he's a lockdown perimeter defender. yeah, he can nail the outside shot and we desperately need that, but that isn't really an 8th pick skillset. maybe trade down for that, or sign someone who can hit a shot. we found wesley, barry, james, and padgett all for almost nothing. you can't use an 8th pick just for a shooter who can't create his own shot. and we won't be designing an offense around him like reggie miller or anything so he'll mostly be doing spot ups on passes from yao and tmac. as for scoring 22 ppg with phoenix, that system make lots of people look good, it wouldn't really mean redick is that good, especially since we aren't running phoenix's system.
chalk me up as another person who thought that was one of the dumbest and most ridiculous statements I've seen in a while dude DaDakota, Laettner didn't do much in college? did you watch college basketball thoroughly back at that time? I can only assume not, because anyone who followed it closely back then would have known that everyone said Laettner was one of the *all-time* college player greats by the time his career was over Hill was a bonafide stud in college. he just didn't have high offensive numbers because Laettner was taking all the shots of course. but you do remember Hill was the overall #3 player picked in the NBA draft? obviously everyone knew he was a great player to be picked that high and Brand was the consensus national player of the year as rimrocker said! Battier wasn't quite as good as the previous three, but he was still the leader of the national championship team. Maggette is the only one in your list who didn't produce much in college I think this is one post of yours you might just want to stricken from the record and forget it happened =P
Casey Jacobsen sucked as the catch-and-shoot, stationary, one-dimensional guard in a Steve Nash led offense....what makes you think Redick would be any different? I don't care that Redick was twice the place in college Jacobsen was, its all about how your game translates to the next level. Its about looking at players that fit Redick's mold and seeing how they perform on the next level despite their lack of size. For instance, lets examine how 6'3" or shorter starting SG's do on the next level. There are three of them: Wade, Gordon and Wesley. Obviously there's a considerable dropoff between the play of Wade/Gordon and that of Wesley's. Wesley, despite his best attempts, simply can't cut it anymore with his age and lack of size. Gordon and Wade on the other hand, actually possess the athleticism and skill sets to offset their lack of size and because of that are still able to be effective on both ends of the floor. What, if any, form of athleticism or ability does Redick possess that would make him better defensively than Wesley? I don't care about how his shooting would help offensively, that would be nice but if he is to become anything more than a bench player he needs to be effective on both ends of the floor. No matter what the haters say about JVG, the one undeniable fact is his teams play championship level defense---which is extremely important. However despite that fact, what is always going to set us apart from San Antonio and Detroit is our lack of quality role players. The kind of role players that are effective on both ends of the floor. Redick has little to no potential to ever become an effective defender and that's a real problem for me. Bottom line: I don't care how you slice it, I simply cannot envision Redick as a starter or anything more than a 3-pt specialist to bring off the bench. That isn't even a bad thing though since in that regard he is one of the safest players in the draft. If you need that gutsy player with range and the ability to hit extremely difficult shots than Redick is a good fit. I just don't want to waste a #8 pick on a bench player.
Guys, I did not mean it as it sounds.......not that they were not good players, but that they were not as good as Reddick in college. Clearly they all were good to great college players, but none of them averaged 27ppg for the season. Truly they were all good, but IMHO, Reddick had the best career at Duke, by a long shot. I really need to read my posts for context.......I meant only that they were not as good as Reddick......ugh !! Baller4lilfe - Redick is 6'4" how tall is Gilbert Arenas again?? Or maybe Dwayne Wade Clearly I am not saying he is as good as those 2, but 6'4" is plenty tall enough as a 2 guard in the NBA. DD
Is Redick a 1 dimensional player in just shooting 3s? I only saw him play during the tourney and didn't see him much throughout his career.
