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Draft day trade proposal

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Hottoddie, Jun 18, 2006.

  1. Hottoddie

    Hottoddie Member

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    Okay, I should know better than to do this, but I just can't help myself. :D So, here goes.

    Houston sends Swift/Lampe/#8 pick to Chicago.

    Chicago sends Duhon/Sweetney/#16 pick/next year's unprotected #1 pick to Houston.


    By doing this trade, Chicago starts to patch a big hole by acquiring 2 big men & swapping the #16 pick for the #8 pick. Swift is better suited for a running offense, than a slower paced half court game & should get back to the level he was at in Memphis, or better. Lampe is still real young, but has all kinds of potential & can play both PF/C positions. By moving up to the #8 pick, they should be able to pick up 2 of the top 8 players (Morrison/Aldridge/Bargnani/Thomas/Brewer/Gay/Roy?) to add some size & defense to an already leathal young team. Or, with the #8 pick in hand, they could package the #2 pick with Chandler for a star player like Pierce, J. O'neal, etc. etc. & still be able to get a solid rotational player at #8.

    Houston fills their need for a starting/backup PG with Duhon & gets rid of a player I wasn't real high on, before they signed him, in Swift. Sweetney showed a glimpse of what he's capable of last year & he, at least plays with more passion than Swift does. With the 16th pick, I go after Oleksiy Pecherov (PF), Mardy Collins (PG/SG), or Shawne Williams (SG/SF). At #32, I take the best pure shooter in the draft, Steve Novak (SF). While he's a one dimensional player for now, imagine the kind of damage he can inflict when the defense collapses on Yao & T-Mac, & they dish it out to a wide open Novak. He's money in the bank & good value in the 2nd round. We also acquire an extra #1 pick in next year's deep draft.

    Well, there it is, my silly opinion. ;)
     
  2. Pringles

    Pringles Member

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    sounds good to me, but doubt chicago will trade duhon... and if it does go through, i would trade howard instead of swift if it could happen, since chicago needs a veteran.
     
  3. xomox

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    teams don't usually trade good usable players for trash.
     
  4. gucci888

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    LOL but true. Sorry Hottoddie, Chicago wouldn't consider this for 1 second.

    Both Duhon and Sweetney are better players than Swift and Lampe and sending an unprotected 1st Rounder is not worth moving up 8 spots when they already have the #2 overall pick.

    Plus, the Bulls can switch 1st Round picks w/ the Knicks next season. So if (or I should say "when") the Knicks finish w/ a Top 3 pick, the Bulls have the option of taking it in exchange for their first rounder.
     
  5. smoothie

    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    i wouild rather have Ronnie Brewer than Duhon and Sweetney. This guy is gonna be really good.
     
  6. withmustard

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    I don't watch much college ball, but alot of NBA. I never really know who the rockets should get. After looking at the workout numbers, how do you not draft Brewer. I've never seen him play but just based on his athleticism i'm almost scared Boston will take him. It should have been Brewer hanging out at T-mac's. I think Brewer could be JOsh Howard's worst nightmare
     
  7. Diaw

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    i think it wont happen, they already have pierce and green, and i think they'll take a PG or a C
     
  8. thumbs

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    Brewer has played PG, and that may become his true position.

    Hottoddie, since the draft is weak but balanced -- players taken from 12 to 25 are of roughly equal value all things considered -- would a 3-way trade work better for everybody? I don't think Chicago wants to keep two rookies (and their guaranteed salaries) on their very young team so that started me to thinking about a veteran from the third team to Chicago, Head and our #32 to the third team and Chicago sends us #16 plus Duhon.
     
  9. Hottoddie

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    Okay, since you asked.

    Houston sends #8/Lampe to Chicago.

    Chicago sends Duhon/#16 to Houston.

    Chicago sends Chandler/Gordon/Harrington/Sweetney/#2 pick to Indiana.

    Indiana sends #17 pick to Houston.

    Indiana sends Jermaine O'Neal to Chicago.


    Houston gets Duhon/#16 pick/#17 pick.

    Chicago gets Jermaine O'Neal/Lampe/#8 pick.

    Indiana gets Chandler/Gordon/Sweetney/Othella/#2 pick.

    How ya' like them apples. :D I really should be the GM.
     
  10. CrazyJoeDavola

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    Chicago gets raped lol
     
  11. baller4life315

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    Decent trade proposal but here's my thing: who wants Duhon when you could probably get a player twice as good as him in Mike James all the while keeping the #8 pick?
     
  12. side45wayz

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    Ummmm, yea Chicago sends gets rid of one of the most clutch shooters in the NBA, their up-and-coming center, Sweetney who showed some signs of improving and an unprotected no. 2 pick in the draft for often injured and aging Jermaine O'neal? You do sound like a GM ( is that you, Isiah?)
     
  13. steddinotayto

    steddinotayto Member

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    Why don't we try to trade our 8th and Swift for NO's picks instead of getting Duhon and lower picks? Just curious
     
  14. side45wayz

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    Sorry, I'm a rookie. Let me try this one more time.

    Ummm, yeah Chicago is going to get rid of one of the most clutch shooters in the NBA, their up-and-coming center (Chandler), Sweetney, who showed signs of improving, an unprotected no. 2 pick in the draft, and Harrington for an often injured and aging Jermaine O'neal? You do sound like a GM (is that you, Isiah)?

    Sorry again 'bout that, but rookies can't edit posts
     
  15. chris_Rocket

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    Chicago lost almost their front line/Duhon and the #2 pick just for JO/Lampe and #8? I think Paxson will be FIRED if he accepts this idea!
     
  16. rfrocket

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    I agree that Chicago is giving up the lion's share in this scenario. Take out their #2, and tweak it a little, and it would be closer to being equitable.


    The thing that suprises me is the Jermaine O'Neal hate I'm reading. I think it's been proven that he's a notch below the elite 4's like Duncan, and Amare but it's only 1 (not huge)notch. And he's at least 2 notches over the average 4, and 3 or 4 over Juwan.



    I'd trade the #8, #32, and Luther for him in a heartbeat. Then sign M. James, and we'd be all set for 'bare.
     
  17. steddinotayto

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    #8, #32 and Head for O'Neal...wow this might work
     
  18. Hottoddie

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    Okay, another tweak to the original proposal.

    Houston sends Lampe to Chicago.

    Houston sends #8 to Indiana.

    Chicago sends Duhon/#16 to Houston.

    Chicago sends Chandler/Gordon/Harrington/Sweetney to Indiana.

    Indiana sends #17 pick to Houston.

    Indiana sends Jermaine O'Neal to Chicago.


    Houston still gets Duhon/#16 (Pecherov?) & #17 (Rajon Rondo?) picks.

    Chicago gets O'Neal (superstar player)/Lampe & keeps the #2 pick.

    Indiana gets Chandler/Gordon/Othella/Sweetney/#8 pick.


    If they sign Reggie Evans in free agency, Chicago's starting lineup could consist of:

    C: J. O'Neal
    PF: Evans
    SF: Nocioni
    SG: Morrison
    PG: Hinrich


    With Deng/Lampe on the bench & the addition of some more depth in free agency, that'd be one heck of a lineup.
     
  19. thumbs

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    Hottoddie -- an interesting approach as usual. However, harking back to my last reply, I was thinking more in terms of keeping (or improving) our #8 because, with it, I believe we will come up with a starter. The #32 is more than likely a project to be groomed in the NBDL, and we need rotational depth now.

    What I was suggesting is harnessing your creative juices to parlay that #32 into a mid-range pick or young player (Antoine Wright? J.R. Smith? etc.) who really could break into JVG's rotation. The #16 owned by Chicago might yield Cedric Simmons or Jordan Farmar or Maurice Ager or Sergio Rodriguez or Shawne Williams etc. etc. -- somebody that could serve a meaningful apprenticeship under a current starter.

    I'll be watching to see the result if you take on this challenge.
     
  20. CrazyJoeDavola

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    Chicago is still getting rapped.
     

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