Dirt Flopowski

I always hated him

freakin wuss!

 

He is a p***y but a damn great Oscar worthy actor. They put Barry and Parker on him in 3rd and 4th quarter, and he did not dare to move to the post once and tried to take advantage of the mismatch. Even Hubie mentioned this again and again that flopper has to take advantage of the mismatch and score from the inside.

 

Dork has no inside game and he knows it. If the Spurs are going to guard him they have to rotate a guy up to keep him from running to the middle to flop or back off a bit and let him launch some bricks. If not for the free-throws he's been shooting he'd be having another bad playoff series.

 

Just a general rule question:

If an offensive player steps on the defensive player's foot when driving, is it an automatic foul or what?


This series is reminding more and more of our series with the mavs last year. Their athletes penetrate, draw minimal contact, not even trying to make a shot, and the refs call fouls every time. Down the stretch, I kept track of actual baskets made by mavs players, and there were like 2, a Dampier tip, and Stackhouse layup (who was basically only trying to draw a foul, but his shot somehow went in). The spurs are trying to play tough, agressive D, but are called for touch fouls and get into the penalty very quickly.

Meanwhile, Duncan was dominating on the other side of the floor, making actual basketball shots, but the mavs just get more freethrows every time he scores. Duncan fouls out on a questionable call (Yao Ming, anyone?) and then the Mavs are able to take it from there. Perhaps the nba wants another suns/ mavs goldenboy matchup?

 

I'd be really curious to note if those claiming the officiating is favoring the Mavs are pulling for the Spurs. 'Cause, IMHO when it comes to BS favorable calls, Ginobili is already in the HOF.

Personally, I have no problem with what I've seen so far in the Spurs-Mavs series. Rather than complain, we ought to take note as the Rox draft and sign FA's. This is the new NBA and the state of how it is being officiated.

Again, just one man's opinion but the Mav's perimeter quickness is aging the Spurs before our very eyes. And it's a very old cliche that the calls go to the aggressor. And it's hard to be the aggressor against a quicker opponent especially on the perimeter.

It's just too bad either the Spurs or Mavs gets to advance.

 

Yeah, I guess we'll just have to watch and see how they call it the rest of the series. If the Mavs keep getting the benefit of the calls, against a higher seed and the defending world champ, then I am going to be pretty suspicious, especially after watching the debacle in the first round last year. While I hate the race card BS, I can't help but wonder in the back of my mind if they want to showcase their two star white players going head to head in the WCF.

 

everybody flops, its just that the refs call every SINGLE thing for dirk, why do they protect him like that, prolly mark cuban doing, dirk did not get tripped in the 4th quarter, and then like 2 plays later wen parker fell flat on his face while cutting n ball went out of bounce from the pass from duncan, they dint call nothin

 

Did you really watch the fourth quarter of tonights game and think that it was called evenly? It was almost comical to see identical sitautions get called two different ways on different ends. Dirk dives out of bounds for a loose ball, gets freethrows. Parker gets tripped on a cut, swallowed whistle.

Calling a tight game clearly favors the mavs with their stable of quick players. The league does seem to be moving in the direction of calling touch fouls on the perimeter and when going to the basket. But then you watch the Pistons play. The refs let them play a much more physical style, and their big men can contest every shot and not worry about slight body contact getting whistled.

I guess my point is, the refs can call a game two different ways, loose or tight. They can basically determine which team has the edge by how they call it. While they are calling it loose right now against the spurs, they could just as easily call it loose if the mavs were to advance to play the pistons.

 

I hate watching Dirk play. I always get annoyed with his constant whining.



Nowitzki: He fouled me!

McCarty: Shut up p***y.

 

Do the refs who officiated the game go back and rewatch the game and the calls they made to see how many errors they made? Or do they not care? Or is it a rule in the NBA in which they have to go back and watch video from the game?

 

Did I think Q4 tonight was called within a reasonable margin of human error? Yes. I recorded the game and I'll probably re-watch it before I go to bed for the evening. If I have a different opinion, I'll get back to you.

Again, I want to emphasize that the Mavs are quicker and are more agressive than the Spurs. That will always plant a seed in the mind's of the officials. Case in point. Remember how Yao emerged from toe surgery? He was aggresssive and the BS calls nearly vanished.

In the bigger picture, if you want to focus on Dirk you're looking through the wrong end of the telescope. It's not just this game. It's the entire 2006 NBA playoffs which have given the benefit to aggressive perimeter offensive play. CHI vs MIA was close. NJN vs MIA is close. The Suns have taken away the "Brand" advantage.

Am I the only one who is observing that transition tempo is faster this playoffs than in 15+ years? You don't get that by favoring sloppy defensive rotations and slower perimeter players. The Spurs are guility of both.

 

they supposedly go over the tape after every game. However, with the subjective nature of many calls, I can see them justifying almost any call they make. If it's a ticky tack call in a crucial situation, then they 'went by the book'. If a guy gets mugged at the end of the game with no call, they prolly just say 'can't let a foul call determine the outcome of the game', etc.

It pretty much has to be a farce of an exercise. To watch guards take three steps to the basket every day of the week, and then call travelling on a big man for shuffling his feet, it's just glaringly inconsistent. Not to mention the whole star-call phenomenom.

 

The way Dirk was acting after that foul (6th) on Duncan, I was pretty sure he would be out for reminder of the game, maybe even the games to follow... but true to himself, he comes back to play within 2 min looking fine

I thought he lost a leg with the way he was grimacing forever on the ground. Unbelievable

-G'day-

 

I don't know. I just find it strange that the Spurs won the title last year by grinding it out in a tough physical series against the Pistons, and now all of a sudden they're behind the times? It's a given that whoever wins the west is going to face the Pistons this year as well. I've got a feeling that Detroit will try to physically manhandle whoever they play, and they'll most likely be allowed to do it from what I've seen of them so far this year. I just wonder if the same handchecks and shot contests will be automatic fouls in that series.

 

Yes, there's an old saying that the aggressor gets the calls. There's also an old saying that NBA superstars have to almost commit a flagrant in order to get a sixth foul called on them in a close games. See, it's not the bad calls in and of themselves that are the worst part of the NBA's officiating problems. It's the inconsistent logic that goes in attempting to justify it. If you use some of the cliches, use all of them. If you don't use one, don't use any. Don't selectively put them into place where you feel like it... that's called bias.

Duncan never even extended his arms, and Dirk stepped on his foot and fell down... and Duncan's done for the game. And that is what decided it. If Duncan's on the floor, the Spurs secure the rebound in the final 10 seconds and likely close it out.

It's an embarassing call against one of the league's all-time great players that may end up determining a playoff series and eventual champion. Sugarcoat it all you guys want, but that's the reality. That said, the Spurs are far from done... they go in and win Monday and they're back in the drivers seat.

 

is that pic photoshopped? his head doesnt look right...

 

I am neither a Spurs or a Mavs fan, just an equal opportunity disliker.

And I don't see how anyone could watch and see how the games are officiated and draw any conclusions on what types of players to draft and sign based on how the 2nd round of the playoffs are called. The officiating is too inconsistent. That's the problem with it. It's not whether the call is right or wrong or the interpretation of how much contact constitutes a foul. It's the terrible inconsistency from player to player, season to season, game to game, quarter to quarter, minute to minute, and even possession to possession.

Take the Cavs Pistons game today. One play Detroit goes down drives the paint and gets the foul call from the Cavs. Very next play Lebron drives the paint, receives more contact, and no call.

What is aggravating is when you see some players like Manu or Dirk get calls on the offensive end by exaggerating contact against them with the huge flops and then players like McGrady drive the bucket, get totally hammered and no call, just because they don't flop around like they've been shot in the kneecap 3 times.

Just the difference between the contact that is allowed on big men and the contact that is allowed on little men is totally aggravating. The officiating has gotten to the point where it looks like a starting lineup of 5 point guards woud have the best chance of winning the championship. To me, you are doing away with the team concept when you give the point guard so much liberty to buzz around and draw the fouls simply by pushing the ball close to the defenders and forcing any kind of contact out there that draws the whistle in their favor. It's no wonder the last 2 MVP awards have went to Nash. Nash is good, no doubt about it. But realistically, his MVP awards are the result of him being smart enough to take advantage of the officials playcalling the most.

And I've never defended Shaq in my life, don't plan on starting now. But it has gotten to where the defender just has to flop and they get the call on him. But if they flop on the same contact with Nowitzki, they get called for the foul and Nowitzki gets the and 1.

The worst part, the officiating has gotten to the point where it is determining games and causing players to get injured and lose time. NBA players are too good, too talented, too skilled, and too smart. They can see when something is called or not called on one end and they expect the same thing on the other end. For instance, the simple dribble drive to the bucket. Every decently skilled PG in the NBA knows how to take the ball to the hole and draw contact. They almost all know how to initiate the contact and make it look like somebody hit them. If they see the ref blow the foul on one end, they should be able to get it back on the other end. But, unfortunately it rarely happens. Instead, it's like the refs know what the player is doing and they intentionally don't give them the call. All this does is create resentment from the players towards the refs and the refs are actually making their inconsistencies more blatent by not making those obvious calls. It's like they have forgotten that the players are the focus of the game, similiar to the umpires in MLB trying to dominate the game with their constantly changing strike zone which doesn't even comply with the rulebook.

It is ridiculous and they are not held accountable enough.