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Dems Delegate Dilemma

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Feb 5, 2008.

  1. MadMax

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    I don't think I could vote for Hillary.
     
  2. Master Baiter

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    I don't think I could vote for McCain.
     
  3. MadMax

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    i'm not sure i can either.

    which may free up an hour or so for me on a tuesday afternoon in november.
     
  4. Master Baiter

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    The only reason I would vote for Hillary over McCain is that McCain seems to know zero about economics, Hillary has some sort of plan for health care, and I believe Hillary will move us toward getting out of Iraq. Bill and Hill are at least a somewhat known quantity that isn't horrible. McCain seems to be the worse wolf (of the two) in sheeps clothing.

    Also, it isn't like our vote here in Texas would matter. We are about as red of a state as you can get.
     
  5. rhadamanthus

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    I feel the same way. McCain's documented corruption aside, I would never trust him with the economy - especially the way we are currently headed.
     
  6. MadMax

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    good..then i shouldn't have to feel guilty when i don't vote. :)
     
  7. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    It's looking like TX votes in the Dem. primary could matter a lot.
     
  8. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    I'm so used to reading here that voting in Texas "doesn't matter because the Republicans are gonna win, anyway," that it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of folks are unfamiliar with the voting booth and end up electing the proverbial dogcatcher.



    Impeach Bush.
     
  9. JeopardE

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    Man. This election season sucks.

    I'm only rooting for Obama now just because I, like many, just want to see some fresh blood in there. Four more years of Clinton-Bush dynasty? Please God no.

    I hope Obama pulls it off. He seems to have the momentum, but the way things are going, it looks like this thing's still going to be unsettled come convention time. Getting pwned in California like that had to hurt.
     
  10. Major

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    Well, I might have to take this back, less than 24 hours after posting it. I didn't expect a complete 50-50 split yesterday. It looks like Obama has the edge for the next few weeks, but Clinton tends to do better in big states, so she may negate that if she can win OH/TX/PA. So we may very well stay virtually even the rest of the way. Yikes.
     
  11. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I think Obama's money raising machine is going to come into play in the next few weeks. Watching one of the programs yesterday, they basically said he does well in states he focuses on, ie GA, and doesn't do well in states he doesn't.
     
  12. insane man

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    obama doesn't excite me. i like the guy but he seems to be a lot of fluffy rhetoric. hillary at least has solid positions in the domestic arena.

    but i really dislike hillary.

    should i be excited about obama?
     
  13. Major

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    Yeah - the money advantage also lets him compete in the Idahos of the world. Hillary was only on the air in about 8-10 states yesterday; Obama covered all 22. He also has better ground organizations in the small states. But I don't know what happens in the bigger states where they both have plenty of resources devoted. TX/OH will be interesting simply because they'll be the first big states to get a lot of focus just on them. With Super Tuesday, Obama was crisscrossing the country, while the Clintons were really focused on the bigger states (they said there was a Clinton in California each of the last 8 or 9 days). TX/OH will test what MI/FL had hoped to - a big state with the focus just on them for two weeks.
     
  14. Major

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    To be fair - Obama has very solid positions on domestic issues. He just doesn't really talk about them in his speeches because that's not really the theme of his campaign. But they are there to read if you're interested.
     
  15. B-Bob

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    Their positions are often similar on policy, but indeed, she has articulated a few more details (or repeated them more often at least).

    Here's a question for you though. Who is more likely to work an idea through Congress? So do you want a detailed but absolutely dead idea, or a potentially less detailed idea that will successfully get detailed in the legislative chambers? That's actually how the process works, IMHO. A survey of presidential candidate policies versus what a president actually gets done is fairly bleak. It's all about compromise, negotiating and communication.

    Hillary, I fear, would just give us more deadlock, given her name and history; it'd be 1994 all over again.
     
  16. Deckard

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    Excepting healthcare, that's how Bill got a lot of things done.



    Impeach Bush before he's Out of Office!
     

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