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Democratic or Republican?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by armyman7894, Nov 3, 2007.

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Democratic or Republican?

  1. Democrat

    60 vote(s)
    55.0%
  2. Republican

    49 vote(s)
    45.0%
  1. geeimsobored

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    Is the US releasing public data showing how many times it waterboards? I assume that would be classified info. I don't think anyone knows.
     
  2. basso

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    i'll give you a hint. it's less than 4/5ths the fingers on one hand.
     
  3. Nice Rollin

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    it just reminded me of that.
     
  4. blathersby

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    Democrats are idiots when it comes to the economy.
    Republicans are just as stupid with their obsession over legislating morality.
    The Libertarian Party is a bunch of crazy extremists.

    I'm a libertarian (notice the small "l") -leaning moderate.
    I voted Bush in 2004.
    I'll be writing in Gore for the Democratic primary.
    Of all the possible candidates (Gore included), I heart Huckabee (though he won't get the nomination).
    But if Gore runs... he wins.

    And I've wanted to see Condi '08 for years, but there's no way she runs now. :(
     
  5. count_dough-ku

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    I'm a socially moderate, fiscally conservative Republican. Which is why I hope Guiliani gets the nomination.

    What pisses me off about Bush and the GOP Congress from 2001-2006 was how they went nutz with spending and completely sold out their base(and the rest of the American people for that matter) on illegal immigration with the amnesty bill.

    Whoever is the GOP nominee in 2008 better make amends on both issues. With Hillary saying(sort of, since she has 2 answers for everything) that she wants to give driver's licenses to illegals, the opportunity is there to make good with a lot of pissed off right-wing voters.
     
  6. mc mark

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    It will be interesting to see what those "pissed off" rightwing voters do next year. The republican base is not happy with any of their choices and the democrats are happy about any number of theirs. I see a lot of "pissed off" conservatives wanting to punish their party for the last eight years and stay home and not vote or actually vote Democrat. You won't see that from the Democratic side. Democrats are excited about the election. I don't see that excitment from Republicans.
     
  7. Ottomaton

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    I'll give you a hint as well. That is a completely unsubstantiated figure which was pulled out of someones posterior for a OP-ED piece. It is about as trustworthy as the former New Yorker's ethnicity and race.

    If they've only done it three times, say that in sworn testimony under oath. Until then, I'll trust it as much as the myriad other obfuscations floated by the White House and proven false.

    I know you aren't a sucker, so if you really believe that number is true and valid it is because it makes you feel better and you want to believe it.
     
  8. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    ^^wishful thinking on your part.

    Are you not aware of the very large base of Democratic voters that simply will not support Hillary in the general due to her vote on the war and Iran?
     
  9. Dubious

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    Ot the fact that they don't want to see a woman in a position of power.

    The b**** factor should not be ignored.
     
  10. mc mark

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    Aren't you supporting Hillary? As I said, even conservatives not happy with their party will be voting for the Democratic candidate.
     
  11. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    I am very happy with my Republican party, which is why I am doing everything I can to ensure that Hillaroid wins the democratic primary.
     
  12. jo mama

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    when it comes to the economy, bush is the biggest liberal this country has ever had.
     
  13. jo mama

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    you realize tranny guiliani is pro-amnesty, right?
     
  14. mc mark

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    Now that's funny!

    Good Luck with that!

    :D
     
  15. thumbs

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    Trader_Jorge is correct in his Hillary vs. the Republican Party hypothesis -- her nomination will put lead in the GOP pencil. Her nomination is the only rejuvenating force out there that conceivably could lead to a Republican Party presidential victory in 2008. However, IMO, this strategy is far too risky for our divided nation.
     
  16. mc mark

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    It's telling that republicans feel the only chance they have is to hope for the nomination of Hillary. Of course the attacks will come, not because of policy or issues, but because she's "that b****."

    As I said, good luck with that.

    And TJ’s assessment that dems will not vote for her if she receives the nomination is ludicrous. While she is not my choice, do people really think democrats are going to pull the level for a republican because they don't like Hillary?

    please
     
  17. rocketsjudoka

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    That calculus works on the other side too. There are a lot of GOP voters that won't vote for Giuliani since he is socially liberal, for amnesty and of questionable moral character. There are a lot of GOP voters who won't vote for Romney since he is a Mormom and has taken socially moderate stances.
     
  18. rocketsjudoka

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    The problem with that analysis is that its Clinton vs. Republican Hypothesis. The problem for the GOP comes when you put a name to that hypothesis. All of the Repub. nominees have some signifigant downsides of their own which might cancel Clinton's downsides.
     
  19. thumbs

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    Every Democratic and Republican candidate has a downside. However, in Hillary's case it is a well lubricated slippery, sheer cliff slide.
     
  20. Batman Jones

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    It is weird though, don't you think, how she's beating every candidate on either side in every poll? I mean given the fact that Americans hate her most, why do they like her most? thumbs, you seem to be the resident Hillary expert. Maybe you could explain this.
     

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