Well everyone was wanting S. Curry to somehow wind up with the Rockets and I was saying all along this guy will never be an elite player. Mainly because he is going to require 20+ shots a game to get his points. He is going to be a big scorer on a bad team. So far this summer league he is proving that is all he is averaging 19.5 a game with 4.5 assists and 4.8 rebounds. Summer League is a joke when it comes to sizing up a guy but he is shooting an awful 31% from the floor and only 33% from 3. Included are two awful nights of 3 for 15 and 4 for 14. His best game is not even worth bragging about 8 for 22. Time will tell but I just don't see elite ever written on this guy.
One word: bandwagon. Don't get me wrong, this guy can be an absolute weapon in the right role but don't expect to be anything more than a specialty combo guard, like a poor mans Ben Gordon. I have always said that he is going to be the type of player that will shoot, shoot, and shoot it......and did I mention shoot it again for safe measures? Good thing he's decently quick and a decent passer (when he decides too), but other than that, he's simply going to be an undersized combo guard with no explosiveness/strength to finish at the rim.
The 3 - 15 and 4 - 14 sound like a typical bad game for Tracy....Maybe this guy will be similar to T-Mac....
It's only summer league and doesn't mean much. I've never been on Curry's bandwagon but he has a chance to be a decent rotation player at some point in his career. I'll be surprised if he's ever a full-time starter or 25 mins/game player. He'll have plenty of games where his shooting will be insanely good and many others where he goes 1/10.
I was never big on the guy myself. But summer league rosters are made up of a bunch of guys trying to prove themselves or get roster spots rather than improving their games. Its like a bunch of backup quarterbacks. Curry will excel in an environment where he isn't one of the top 3 players on the team. When he isn't trying to demonstrate his ability but rather play a role. I think the assists numbers tell more of a story than his shooting.
I don't think its a big deal for a young player to be a little over-aggressive and out of control in his first summer league action. It's a sign of him being confident, and at least shows he's capable of getting off shots in a 1-on-1 situation. That's step number 1. The polish and poise should improve with experience and as he matures.
Chuckers are generally good fits in Golden State. At some point though, somebody is gonna have to play some D. That franchise needs a makeover. More on topic, I liked Curry and thought he would be a good fit in HOU if we could of gotten him. I still think he has major upside - and will be right at home in that GS offense. In H-town I would of liked to see him because we need a wing with a scorers mentality with Von, Mac (?) and now Ron gone....fair enough we prob needed a C more but I think we need a scoring athletic wing than we did another PG.
I agree with this. Despite being a great shooter, I don't think Curry will ever be a profilic, undersized scoring guard a la Monta Ellis. I don't care what the combine numbers showed, I do not see him in the same league as Ellis, athletically. He won't be jumping over and burning by NBA players the way Ellis does. I think his only shot of becoming the top-tier player he is hyped up to be is if he can prove Bobby Knight, or whoever it was, to be correct. I think his best chance at success is becoming a scoring PG with above average playmaking skills, sort of in the Tony Parker mold. He'll have to prove, in general, that he has very good bball IQ (which I think he probably does) and that he can play defense at this level if he wants to be a factor on a good team. If he doesn't have those tools, he may end up being a chucker on a bad team as the OP is alluding to.
I admit I'm underwhelmed with his performance but as many mentioned it's a wait and see sort of thing. He certainly puts up a lot more bad shots than I had expected, though.
Not even to preseason and he's already being deemed as finished. What a bunch of .................whatevers. Curry will be a player in this league. Watch him!
Kevin Durant had some of the worst chucking numbers in summer league history. He averaged over 20 points a game but still had like SINGLE digit PER rating. We see where he is now.
Well adjusting to the range and shot selection will be different for a while. I suspect he will have better games though. Maybe not a superstar but certainly could compete one day with some of the better scorers in the league like say a Jason Terry type.
Good post. Since you frame it this way, I'll say that Curry will never be an average defender and has no hope at all of being as good as Tony Parker. TP's speed and athleticism are out of reach of a player like Curry, who will never be good at creating his own shot. Curry's upside is being an off-the-ball role player who benefits from what other players create. He will attack the basket when the lane is open due to poor team defense, not because he created the opening himself. Against poor defensive teams, he will feast. Against good defensive teams, Curry will have a very rough time unless he has teammates that draw attention. I'm not basing this off his pre-season. Bottom line: Put Curry on a team with a couple of stars and he can make a name for himself. Perhaps Nellie's wide-open, smallball system (which I think is garbage) will benefit him too. He might have fit on the Rockets because of Adelman's emphasis on ball-movement.
May be it's off the topic but just let you guys know that Ty Lawson is even worse, who has played 2 games with a .067 FG% so far.
Apparently these people disagree. (Not saying they are right, but just continuing the discussion.) http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/chris_mannix/07/15/vegas-curry/index.html?bcnn=yes Spoiler Summer League notes: Warriors' Curry doesn't lack for confidence by Chris Mannax LAS VEGAS -- Two years ago, Gilbert Arenas told me he could tell if a player was going to be a superstar just by saying his name. "Look at some of [the] names," Arenas said. "Kobe Bryant. Tiger Woods. Anything with Michael in it. It's like if you have a name like that, you're automatically a star. O.J. Mayo, the kid hasn't played one minute [in the NBA], but you already know he's going to be great." As I watched Warriors rookie Stephen Curry play here over the last few days at the NBA Summer League, Arenas' words came back to me. Curry's name isn't exactly melodic, and it doesn't tell me he's going to be great -- but everything else about him does. Watching him play, I get that feeling, and I just know he's going to become an impressive player. It's his lean frame that's bound to pop with muscles in the next few years; his fluid shooting stroke; his never-ruffled demeanor that's exemplified by the way he chews on his mouth guard during breaks in the action (recalling the way Brett Favre toyed with his mouthpiece between plays). It's the whole package, one that begs observers to believe this 21-year-old, baby-faced guard is a future star in the making. Curry has struggled with his shooting in Vegas, but he did score 16 points against the Rockets in his debut, collect 29 against fellow lottery pick Tyreke Evans and the Kings in his second game and chip in 23 against Detroit. Against Sacramento, Curry displayed the great confidence he inherited from another great shooter, his father, Dell, by rebounding from a two-point (on 0-for-8 shooting) first half to drop 27 in the second. "I've gone through slumps before," Curry said. "They are nothing new to me. I always feel like I am going to turn it around." When Curry feels that confidence, so too do those watching him. "He's a guy that doesn't worry about the stat sheet," Warriors assistant coach Keith Smart said. "His dad was a lot like that. At Davidson, there were games when he couldn't buy a bucket. But I've noticed that he's a guy that always thinks his next shot is going in." If Curry gets up to speed quickly in the the regular season (Smart believes his learning curve "is going to be drastically shorter than people think"), the Warriors have the makings of an explosive backcourt. Monta Ellis is already established as a premier scorer. He was reportedly unhappy the Warriors drafted a point guard, but if he and Curry find a way to mesh, the duo will have the ability to average 30-35 points per game next season. The Warriors have made no secret of their desire to win games based on their offense. With Curry and Ellis lighting it up, they just might be able to do that.
Well I have not read anyone dumping on him. Just pointing out the the high shooting % he had in a weak conference of college basketball has already slipped. Everyone knows that the Summer is really just getting work in for guys like this, but his bad numbers stand out as of right now. Maybe he will be good,but I would not want this guy taking 20+ shots on my team. He is going to be a big time scorer on a bad team.
It was a very weak draft, so observers are expecting too much from the lottery picks. Curry is probably going to be good--not close to franchise-quality--but my concern for the Warriors is that he completely duplicates what Monta Ellis already does. (Of course, he could be a complete bust, as a lot of great shooters go through season-long shooting slumps when they enter the league. Just ask ex-Warrior Mike Dunleavy. Too early to tell though).
