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Congress's Travel Tab Swells

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  1. OddsOn

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    I don't care what party you vote for but these politicians are out of control. These are the same people who are spending us into severe debt, printing money toward hyper-inflation, accusing us of not paying our "fair share", saying we need to drive golf carts and buy mercury laced light bulbs.....

    And let us know forget "carbon emissions" and "global warming" errh I mean "climate change" or what ever they are calling it these days. How do they explain the fuel and pollution being used and omitted by these jet planes?

    HYPOCRISY any way you look at it... :eek: :confused: :rolleyes:


    Congress's Travel Tab Swells

    Spending on Taxpayer-Funded Trips Rises Tenfold; From Italy to the Galápagos

    By BRODY MULLINS and T.W. FARNAM

    WASHINGTON -- Spending by lawmakers on taxpayer-financed trips abroad has risen sharply in recent years, a Wall Street Journal analysis of travel records shows, involving everything from war-zone visits to trips to exotic spots such as the Galápagos Islands.

    The spending on overseas travel is up almost tenfold since 1995, and has nearly tripled since 2001, according to the Journal analysis of 60,000 travel records. Hundreds of lawmakers traveled overseas in 2008 at a cost of about $13 million. That's a 50% jump since Democrats took control of Congress two years ago.

    The cost of so-called congressional delegations, known among lawmakers as "codels," has risen nearly 70% since 2005, when an influence-peddling scandal led to a ban on travel funded by lobbyists, according to the data.

    Lawmakers say that the trips are a good use of government funds because they allow members of Congress and their staff members to learn more about the world, inspect U.S. assets abroad and forge better working relationships with each other. The travel, for example, includes official visits to American troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    The Journal analysis, based on information published in the Congressional Record, also shows that taxpayer-funded travel is a big and growing perk for lawmakers and their families. Some members of Congress have complained in recent months about chief executives of bailed-out banks, insurance companies and car makers who sponsored corporate trips to resorts or used corporate jets for their own travel.

    Although complete travel records aren't yet available for 2009, it appears that such costs continue to rise. The Journal analysis shows that the government has picked up the tab for travel to destinations such as Jamaica, the Virgin Islands and Australia's Great Barrier Reef.

    Lawmakers frequently bring along spouses on congressional trips. If they take commercial flights, they have to buy tickets for spouses. If they fly on government planes -- as they usually do -- their spouses can fly free.

    Paris Air Show

    In mid-June, Sen. Daniel Inouye (D., Hawaii) led a group of a half-dozen senators and their spouses on a four-day trip to France for the biennial Paris Air Show. An itinerary for the event shows that lawmakers flew on the Air Force's version of the Boeing 737, which costs $5,700 an hour to operate. They stayed at the Intercontinental Paris Le Grand Hotel, which advertises rooms from $460 a night.

    The lawmakers were invited to a dinner party at the U.S. Embassy and had cocktails at a private party at the Eiffel Tower. Mr. Inouye attended a dinner sponsored by the Aerospace Industries Association, a U.S. trade group. Another senator on the trip, Alabama Republican Sen. Richard Shelby, took a cruise on the River Seine with defense-industry executives and elected officials from Alabama, Mississippi and Florida.

    Mr. Inouye and Mr. Shelby declined to comment.

    Often, lawmakers combine trips to war zones with visits to more tranquil spots. In February, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi led a delegation of Democratic lawmakers to visit U.S. troops in Afghanistan for a day. Before landing in Kabul, the eight lawmakers and their entourage of spouses and aides spent eight days in Italy, spending $57,697 on hotels and meals.

    A spokesman for Ms. Pelosi says that she was working in Italy, meeting with U.S. troops at Aviano Air Base, laying a wreath at the Florence American Cemetery, giving a speech to Italian lawmakers and visiting the Pope, among other things.

    Homeland Security

    Rep. Bennie Thompson (D., Miss.), the chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, led a group to Brazil, Argentina, Peru and Panama. "This trip further solidified the message that homeland security does not begin or end at our borders," says Mr. Thompson's spokeswoman.

    Many congressional trips have been to Iraq or Afghanistan. In 2008, lawmakers and aides took 113 trips to Iraq, according to the Journal analysis, down slightly from the prior year. Not much money is spent in the war zones. Lawmakers are not allowed to stay overnight in Iraq and receive only minimal spending allowances for their one-day visits.

    In mid-February, for example, six House lawmakers traveled to Kuwait, Iraq, Bahrain and Afghanistan. Each lawmaker reported spending $1,500 on hotels and meals in Kuwait, $400 in Bahrain, and $25 in Afghanistan. They reported no expenses in Iraq.

    Scores of lawmakers are spending this week abroad on taxpayer-funded trips. Congressional offices say they won't release details of the trips for security reasons. Disclosure rules require lawmakers to print some information about their taxpayer-funded travel in the Congressional Record within 30 days of returning home.

    Congressional Fleet

    The congressional trips are possible thanks in part to an unlimited fund created by a three-decade old law. Nearly two dozen government officials work full-time organizing the trips. Much of the costs are not made public, including the cost of flying on government jets. The Air Force maintains a fleet of 16 passenger planes for use by lawmakers.

    Documents obtained by the Journal show that the cost of flying a small group of lawmakers to the Middle East is about $150,000. Larger trips on the Air Force's version of the Boeing 757 cost about $12,000 an hour. Two federal agencies pay for most of the travel -- the Defense Department and the State Department.

    Exotic Locales

    In October, Rep. Bud Cramer (R., Ala.) spent two weeks in Europe on government business. Reports show that Mr. Cramer spent $5,700 on hotels, meals and incidentals. Mr. Cramer wasn't running for re-election and left office just two months later.

    "Knowing that I was leaving with my 18 years of seniority, I wanted to conclude some issues that I was working on," Mr. Cramer said. He now works for a lobbying firm in Washington.

    Some of the most expensive travel is to exotic locales.

    Last summer, Rep. Brian Baird (D., Wash.) took a four-day trip to the Galápagos Islands with his wife, four other lawmakers and their family members. The lawmakers spent $22,000 on meals and hotels, records show. Mr. Baird, a member of the House Science Committee, said the trip was to learn about global warming.


    On the first day, lawmakers toured a breeding center for giant tortoise and land iguanas before dining with scientists, according to an itinerary for the trip. The next morning, lawmakers headed to the Galápagos National Park while their family members had the option of hiking, swimming or shopping. That afternoon, the group boarded a boat to visit a sea-lion colony and search for white-tip sharks.

    Mr. Baird didn't respond to a request for comment.
     
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  2. Ubiquitin

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    This is pretty ridiculous.
     
  3. Dairy Ashford

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    It's alot of unchecked spending with very ambiguous rationale, but I don't see the need to invoke the global warming debate.

    I guess a good first step would be to say if you're going on official government business on taxpayer money, you shouldn't be taking your wife or kids, ever.

    The flipside is, who would you rather have pay for these quasi-junkets: the government, or some lobbyists?

    The whole goverment and corporate expense account culture needs to go away.
     
  4. logicx

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    Bottom line: You can't spend more than you have. It's simple. None of us in our homes/families can do it. Somehow, our wonderful elected leaders think they can, maybe because they can print money, maybe because they're stupid, maybe because they're spineless, either way, they're wrong.

    Social security, universal healthcare, etc...You can't spend more than you have!

    The people in congress seem baffled as how to balance a budget. Gee, what a shock. The way I see it, there are two choices. 1) Obtain more money (via taxes, via whatever), 2) Spend less money

    You can get into a complicated debate on credit, borrowing, inflation, investing, etc., but in the end, you just can't spend more than you have. If these people (the politicians), who for the most part don't have to worry about every day balancing of their home budgets, could get that through their thick heads, we'd be a lot better off.
     
  5. orbb

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    Yes you can, especially if no one is watching. It really isnt that hard to game the system, considering our atrocious attention span. A major offensive involving 4000 marines, a kidnapped soldier, yet every cable network is microanalyzing MJ (and I love MJ).
     
  6. logicx

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    I completely agree, and it's obvious those idiots in Washington are spending more than we have. But, I think a better choice of words is you SHOULD NOT spend MORE than you HAVE!

    You do bring up an excellent point about America's attention span in general, and how the media networks perceive our attention span, and, in my opinion, the disservice that media networks do to the American people by minoring on the majors and majoring on the minors.
     
  7. Rashmon

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    Would you feel better if they were traveling in Ted Kennedy's car?

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  8. KingCheetah

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    Congress's Tab Swells
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  9. fredred

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    So basically, we are paying more money since oil prices spiked around last summer and lobbyists stopped funding trips... yeah, it's an abuse of power to a degree, but the article listed the total cost at $13 million, which for the 600 or so Congressmen and all their aids and families, really isn't some astronomical figure.

    Yes, we should try to avoid excesses like these, but we should probably start with the bigger financial fish.
     
  10. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    While we're talking about 0.0004% of the federal budget, it does show poor judgment, all things considered. Good find.
     
  11. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    For that Italy trip, the Representatives were averaging about $1000 per day each. That is absurdly high. These field trips don't really teach them anything they couldn't get from a briefing in Washington, they are just mini-vacations. I say let the lobbyists pay for it, but make every cent public.
     

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