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Computer Science Degrees

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Amel, May 25, 2007.

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  1. Amel

    Amel Member

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    What jobs as a starter could you get/look for with a masters degree in computer science....

    what are the starting salaries without any prior experience?

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  2. wreck

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    Dude youre getting a masters? I barely looking to get a Bachelors. Where are you studying?
     
  3. Amel

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    lol

    I'm far away from one, just looking to get more info, thought some of you guys would know...

    I'm going to do my Bachelors in IT first at Florida Central
     
  4. updawg

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    Why do you want a Masters in Comp Sci? what school
     
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    just saw the reply, get a MBA instead. Masters in CSC isn't worth it (depending what you want to do)

    I have a B.S. in CSC in '94 and its basically a piece of paper showing I got a degree at this point.
     
  6. Lil Pun

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    Why do I keep hearing this, that a Master's degree in computer related fields is worthless? I have been hearing things like that about Bachelor level degrees as well, in computer-related fields. What's the deal?
     
  7. Davidoff

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    I have a masters level CS programmer working for me right now, he is a contract worker at $50.00 an hour.. He's better than most, but he is very limited to only code and for what we need done and a person at his level $50.00 is a fair wage for contract worker..
     
  8. A-Train

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    Wasn't computer science supposed to be the big wave of the future? All you hear about in IT is people that can't find jobs, and jobs being outsourced to India...
     
  9. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Its because CS is an applied science that changes constantly and most CS programs are generations behind the current technology. The only thing the CS degree shows is that you know how to think. Practical experience and "adaptability" is more important.
     
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    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Is that what you are paying the contract company or is that what he is making or both.
     
  11. Amel

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    I'm looking into that too...it's still all fresh, just don't want to spend 2 years for nothing. Well its not really nothing, but there are some big differences in salaries...
     
  12. DeAleck

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    I have a BS in CS, and I'm getting my MBA this Fall.

    Here is what's going on with the field of CS. Your education is way too difference from your real work. In school, you learn OS, Compilers, Graphics, Networks, Algorithms, Linear Algebra, Computer Architectures and so on. These are good and all, if you want to get prepared in the field of CS and go to graduate school. After you work your butt off earning the bachelors degree, you graduate and become a programmer and make pretty good much. However, you really don't need taking all those classes to become a good programmer. If you are smart, reading a couple of programming books would do. Therefore, your degree will help you to find a job, but your education is pretty much wasted.

    However, if you are interested in doing research in the field and become a true computer scientist, instead of just another programmer working for a software/internet company, a masters degree is very useful. So, it all depends on what you want.
     
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    Unless we are back to the Internet bubble aftermath, a good programmer can always find jobs now days. However, you need to be good and up-to-date to the newest technology.

    To me, it isn't worth it. Facing a computer and typing a keyboard for 8 hours a day make me unhappy. Smart people now days are expanding their skill sets, especially in management, so they can be the ones managing outsourcing, intead of the ones fearing their jobs being outsourced.
     
  14. Xerobull

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    Experience is king in IT. If I posted an IT job and someone showed up with no experience but a CS degree and someone else showed up with tons of experience with some certifications but no degree, I would hire the second candidate in a heartbeat. Traditionial secondary education really doesn't have the coursework it takes to fill a specific role.

    If you combine some solid experience in IT with a post-grad degree, you can be running an IT department or even be a CIO when you graduate. But if you don't have any experience, you might be looking at being the manager of a call center at the most.

    My advice: Get a part-time job in a call center or a computer repair shop. Volunteer at your college IT department. Get something that shows you have experience.
     
  15. Amel

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    thanks

    anyone else's experience?
     
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    You answered your own question. :D
     
  17. Amel

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    thanks

    that's what I was thinking. Working here where I'm at in the IT Dept with an AS degree until I get my bachelors would give me a year or two of experience in that field.
     
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    My roommate is a CS major in and he's rolling in offers from all sorts of places (Amazon, Microsoft, Yahoo, etc..)

    No idea how he got those interviews set up but the interviews were all tests of his technical knowledge of CS. So jobs are out there, plenty of them as a matter of fact but you just need to find them.

    But it looks like you want an IT job which is another animal and as pointed out earlier is purely experience driven.
     
  19. Harrisment

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    Comp Science degrees are nice to have, but by no means are they necessary. Experience is still the #1 thing employers look for when selecting candidates. IT is one of those fields where entry level you're not going to make much more with a degree than someone who doesn't. The degree doesn't come in handy until you start moving into the more upper level/management positions.

    I've been working in IT for 8 years now, no degree, and I make damn good money. But it took 6 years before I was making a good wage. I've just recently decided to go back and work on a degree, just because I know in a few years I'll start looking into going the management route.

    If I was you, personally I would start working now, get some experience under your belt, and worry about your masters many years down the line.
     
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    Actually, just the opposite is happening. Many companies that jumped on the outsourcing wave have started bringing the support back in house, because the quality and cost savings just wasn't what they expected. And the outsourcing was primarily around call centers and development. I work on the infrastructure side so overseas outsourcing is never something I've been concerned with.
     

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