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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Lil Pun, Dec 27, 2004.

  1. Lil Pun

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    once you get the technical problems worked out and are able to keep it running...we will go over video file/dvd basics....Ive spent many many hours learning to understand details of this stuff...we may have to do this over a IM...

    as for your hardware problems...(i strongly suspect hardware issues)

    Im somewhat at a loss to tell you what the deal is...

    but do you remember the troubleshooting steps we discussed b4?

    disconnect everthing except for ram, cpu and video card....let it run for a while...keep an eye on it....does it still shut off?

    then add a part...rinse and repeat
     
  3. Lil Pun

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    Thanks for the reminder R2K because I sure didn't think of it since the computer will power off even if left alone. I'll try it out and post the results.
     
  4. Lil Pun

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    What else is there to disconnect besides DVD and floppy drives?
     
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    If your time and date are resetting, your CMOS battery needs to be replaced. But that can't be what's causing your shutdowns.

    Try this: boot off a Windows98 boot disk into a dos prompt and just leave it there - see if it shuts down. Since it's a different operating system, this will absolutely determine if it's a software or hardware issue. (You might want to make that boot disk from a computer which you know is clean of virii). You can get a Win98 boot disk image from http://www.bootdisk.com.

    -- droxford
     
  6. Vengeance

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    Yeah, that will serve the same purpose as booting from knoppix. Oh wait, I have an idea:

    Do this: download the memtest86+ boot disk here (you'll need to extract the zip and then follow the instructions -- really easy), then boot to that. This tests your RAM. Now, I'm not suggesting it because I think your RAM is bad, far from it, but because it's going to make the system do something. If the machine shuts down during this, you KNOW it's hardware. Otherwise, it's bound to be software.

    Oh, and that reminds me -- Pun, do you have wireless?
     
  7. Lil Pun

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    The only thing I have wireless is a keyboard and mouse.

    I'm going to try what was suggested and post my results. Thanks a million!
     
  8. Lil Pun

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    As I remember it, my problems didn't start until after I installed SP2. My mother's had SP2 installed on it when the OS was loaded. Has SP2 seen problems like mine?
     
  9. Vengeance

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    Pun, I have found a usenet posting of someone who has basically the exact same problem as you do:
    link here
    I posted asking for follow ups. I've been looking around and no good info, but I think we'll solve this one yet. The common denominator between you and the guy in the usenet post is that you both have Asus (ASrock is an asus brand) motherboards with XP Pro SP2 and the exact same problem.

    BTW, I was driving and thinking about your problem and an idea hit me -- this is a totally random idea, and I can't possibly see that it could be the problem, but hey, I mean, this problem is so strange, it could be anything, couldn't it? Are your ATX power connectors to the motherboards plugged in all the way? I had a guy bring me a computer about a week ago, and he was having a VERY odd problem. I tried to help him on the phone but no luck. Then he brought it in and it took all of ten seconds to find the problem -- he hadn't plugged in the ATX connector all the way into the motherboard. It was only plugged in some of the way. For him, this was causing his CPU fan to not power on.

    Again, I'm sure that's not the problem -- it's a total shot in the dark while blindfolded type of thing, but I suppose it's worth mentioning . . . or not.
     
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    Holy crap - I have an Asus P4P800 deluxe with XP and haven't installed SP2 yet. I think I'll hold off until Lil Pun figures it out.

    -- droxford
     
  11. Lil Pun

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    It's always good when somebody else finds the problem before you do. :D

    And holy hell Vengeance, that guy's problem does sound EXACTLY like mine, he even has to do the EXACT same thing I do to power mine back up. :eek: I even saw somebody post a reply on there that said somebody is having a problem with two computers just like me. My power supply is plugged in ALL the way, that was one of the first things that I checked when I began to have the problem. Thanks for the heads up though. I reseated my RAM and now my computer has been shutting off less but not completely stopped. I was even able to burn a CD. The strange thing is I can leave it standing and it won't power off like it did before it will actually stay on because it hasn't been off when I woke up the past two nights. Hopefully we'll find a solution.
     
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    Yeah, it definitely is the same. I don't think the ASUS motherboards has anything to do with it -- I have an ASUS A7N8X-E and when I'm in XP, I have no problems with SP2. This one definitely has me confused -- did you run the memtest disk? If, as a few people have surmised, it's got anything to do with RAM, memtest would find it.
     
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    hey Lil Pun

    Did you ever figure out what was wrong with your computers?

    -- droxford
     
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    Same card as you guys (P4P800 deluxe), WinXP, have installed SP2 months ago, no problems in doing so. YMMV.
     
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    I want to know, too. What gives? No updates, Pun?
     
  16. Lil Pun

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    UPDATE: I ran the memtest scan and the computer still shuts off. :(

    What's weird is sometimes it will stay on just fine for a very long while but then sometimes it'll just shut off. I'm looking for any and all possible links but haven't come up with any yet.
     
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    Sorry about this off the subject question but I will ask here instead of starting a new thread. A family member wants me to install XP on their computer that is about 4 years old and they also want me to reformat it to do so. It has a Celeron processor and 192 MB of RAM and a 10 GB D :( it's actually an old Hewlett Packard. Can HP's be reformatted and will the computer handle XP?
     
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    One more thing: my mother said her computer has been acting fine until my sister tries to play The Sims 2 on it. She said my sis can't even get to a screen before the whole thing just shuts down. Sorry for the multiple posting. :(
     
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    So it shut off during the memtest?

    As per the XP on the HP -- depends on how fast the celeron is. I'd guess it's probably like a 450Mhz Celeron, considering the age (perhaps a bit faster). You could definitely do XP, but it'll be sluggish. You should definitely add more RAM to it if you want to run XP.
     
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    I believe so, I started the test and left the room and when I came back my computer was completely off. After or before the test does the computer shut down or something automatically?
     

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