1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Chixie Dicks

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by giddyup, May 14, 2006.

  1. gwayneco

    gwayneco Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2000
    Messages:
    3,459
    Likes Received:
    36
    Do you not understand English? I believe that we should enforce our current immigration laws until they are changed. But I do favor changing them to allow for easier legal immigration into the US. The fact that I do want immigrants to learn English apparently marks me as a racist, though I don't know why that would be. So, actually I am in favor of having more "brown skin" people in the USA, not fewer. I think encouraging immigration makes America more dynamic and vibrant.
     
  2. underoverup

    underoverup Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2003
    Messages:
    3,208
    Likes Received:
    75
    the return of the dixie chicks equals a victory for the jihadists. :(
     
  3. giddyup

    giddyup Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2002
    Messages:
    20,466
    Likes Received:
    488
    If they bothered me THAT much, it wouldn't have taken a 60 Minutes feature to get me to start this thread.

    I was just always touched by their arrogance. They think that they have a sacrosanct right to express their opinion (and they do) yet they refuse to accept the backlash which is also the expression of an opinion-- with the exception of death threats or harm in general.
     
  4. Dubious

    Dubious Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2001
    Messages:
    18,318
    Likes Received:
    5,090
    RRREEEOOOWWW!

    CATFIGHT!
     
  5. thadeus

    thadeus Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2003
    Messages:
    8,313
    Likes Received:
    726
    What do you think of Toby Keith's arrogance?
     
  6. The Cat

    The Cat Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2000
    Messages:
    20,836
    Likes Received:
    5,434
    This simplistic view of the situation has always dumbfounded me. They're fine with the backlash. They're fine with people not buying their CDs. The problem is the ban that some stations still have. That's where it becomes a free speech issue. Most artists need radio exposure to be a success - it's not optional. And here, certain public radio stations are effectively saying "think just like we do politically, or get the hell out."

    No, there's no "right" for an artist to receive airplay. But when every single an artist release ends up with tens of thousands of spins per week nationally and suddenly that dwindles to hundreds, the message is quite clear. And yes, I also recognize that many radio stations cater to their listeners, and polled showing a slim majority in that area not wanting to hear the Chicks on the radio. I could accept the majority/minority argument under one condition... that it's applied to every other artist. It's not. There are a lot of other artists that a lot of people don't like (see the Toby Keith reference in the last post), but I haven't seen any polls of "Should Toby Keith be played on station X?"

    When you selectively apply the logic to one particular group based on political opinion, it comes off as politically motivated and serves as a method of curtailing free speech. The Chicks' statements were exercising their freedom of speech, and the ignorant hicks who ran over their CDs with tractors were exercising their freedom of speech. Any ban, however, crosses the line, and to me gives them a very valid right to complain.
     
  7. RocketMan Tex

    RocketMan Tex Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 1999
    Messages:
    18,452
    Likes Received:
    119
    The 60 minutes piece also stated that the single from their new CD is #46 on the country singles chart, but is the #1 downloaded country song on I-Tunes.

    That should give everyone a little pause to think.
     
  8. giddyup

    giddyup Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2002
    Messages:
    20,466
    Likes Received:
    488
    The same thing I think of anyone's arrogance.... "Stick it!" :D
     
  9. giddyup

    giddyup Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2002
    Messages:
    20,466
    Likes Received:
    488
    If they can accept one repercussion, they can accept them all. How about that simplistic thinking? :D

    What radio station does not "cater" to their listeners? Without listeners there is no radio station.
     
  10. mc mark

    mc mark Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 1999
    Messages:
    26,195
    Likes Received:
    471
    Sure there is! Ever hear of Stern on Sirius? :D
     
  11. Major Malcontent

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2000
    Messages:
    3,177
    Likes Received:
    211
    Think what you want about the Dixie Chicks....they are a little above average musically, but thier CD's are never on my must buy list.

    But they are smart enough to know that if they just looked purty, played their music and made nonsensical "How ya'll doin" banter with their conservative fan base, they would have made a LOT more money.

    They had the intestinal fortitude to take a stand that hit them in the pocketbook....thats a little different than a Kanye West, who's core audience will Amen anything he says about the President or the Government.
     
  12. gwayneco

    gwayneco Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2000
    Messages:
    3,459
    Likes Received:
    36
    Well, you're half right - it was intestinal!
     
  13. bnb

    bnb Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2002
    Messages:
    6,992
    Likes Received:
    316
    I know I would never have heard of the Dixie Chicks if it weren't for the Neocons.
     
  14. Major Malcontent

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2000
    Messages:
    3,177
    Likes Received:
    211
    I'd rather hear Nat Maines poot on the Bush admin than smell Dubya crapping on the country.
     
  15. RocketMan Tex

    RocketMan Tex Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 1999
    Messages:
    18,452
    Likes Received:
    119
    Speaking of intestinal....:D
     
  16. giddyup

    giddyup Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2002
    Messages:
    20,466
    Likes Received:
    488
    Okay change that to radio "show" or "satellite"... :D
     
  17. finalsbound

    finalsbound Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2000
    Messages:
    12,333
    Likes Received:
    927
    How true... :cool:
     
  18. The Cat

    The Cat Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2000
    Messages:
    20,836
    Likes Received:
    5,434
    They don't go out of their way to do so when it doesn't involve the Dixie Chicks, though. They don't run polls on whether listeners want to hear Toby Keith, for example. To an extent, they listen, but they also rely heavily on national playlists and national feedback. The individual listener response is focused exclusively on the Dixie Chicks... that's where it comes off as a freedom of speech issue.

    I wouldn't say that. They would make some more, certainly, but they'll still sell out major venues across the country when they tour and they'll still sell close to half a million albums in their first week (next week). It's hard explaining to people who don't know country music, but there have always been distinct differences between the Dixie Chicks and between the rest of the commercial genre. They lost some of the casual fans, but a majority of the fans they "lost" never really were supporters in the first place... they were generally indifferent. Maybe had an album or two. But most of the actual core fans are still there because they were always a somewhat different demographic to begin with.
     
  19. giddyup

    giddyup Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2002
    Messages:
    20,466
    Likes Received:
    488
    Is it possible that there never has been such a gaff to provoke such uninvited opinion-expressing?
     
  20. Dairy Ashford

    Dairy Ashford Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    14,585
    Likes Received:
    1,888
    Wnes, my desktop background would like to thank you for this image. Although I kind of wish it was landscape, so I could stretch it rather than tile it. Interesting to note this is a PETA anti-fur campaign: nothing like a lost cause with hot, publicity-conscious female supporters (Alicia Silverstone, Pam Andersen) to bring out the nekkid. Although, don't most people buy fur and kill and eat animals to get over the fact they don't look like, or can't be wth, women that attractive? Also, for some reason, it kinda seems less political when there's three of 'em.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now