I don't think Stockton should lose his job because I think the mistake is more about just being ignorant. I do not believe he is a racist. On the other hand, if you agree that he had make a mistake, do you think he should apologize? I think an apology is exactly what most of the people here want. If you do, why are you still arguing with the guys?
I'm willing to give Stockton the benefit of the doubt and agree that his comments were the result of simple ignorance, not racism. This does not mean that he should not apologize, in fact, quite the opposite. As a professional he should have known better and his ignorance reflects poorly on him as a broadcaster. We all make mistakes while on air, but if we offend a group of listeners with a racial slur, intentional or not, we should be able to learn from our mistakes and apologize to those who were offended. If not, then we would be something more sinister than simply an ignoramus.
I am really tired of this. Most of the posters, if not all, in this thread didnt accuse Stockton a racist. You're the one ASSUME that they did. I am sure Stockton is intelligent enough not to say it intentionally, and I also believe he should be knowledgeable about it. For someone who's worked in national broadcast for so long, it's hard to believe otherwise. Whether Stockton is a racist or not is not the point. He made a mistake by offending a group of people. Whether it's a honest mistake or not, he should apologize. Your intent might be thinking some people here are just too offensive about all these sort of things. Fine, you have the right to do so. But dont try to explain it away with such lame excuse that Chinaman is no different from Russian, or Mexican. If you dont know, or care to know, just say so. Just dont tell others that they shouldn't be offended. As a matter of fact, if most of the posters here are calling for Stockton's head, labelling him a racist just like some of you labelling us YOF , I'll be on your side. People do make honest mistakes. It's OK, we're all human. Just like at first I thought it was Steve Kerr who said it
I would be offended by the word "Redneck", although not as much as by the word "W-trash". Will the French like to be called "Franceman", Russians "Russiaman", the English "Englandman", or Americans "Americamen"?
Yep. This is probably what will happen (Stockon apologize). Then, we move on. In the end, it's no big deal... See...?
gotoloveit2, Would you be willing to give white people the benefit of the doubt in the future? You know, for honest mistakes and such? Yes, no, maybe?
The fact that we BOTH understand the S word to be offensive highlights the fact that it should NEVER be used to refer to a player during an NBA broadcast. Ignorance of the words offensive nature might make the person who used it not a racist, but is doesn't take away the need for an apology to be issued. Please keep in mind this was said by a professional broadcaster, ie. someone who should know better, that is part of what he's being paid for. Rochut
Actually I've called my friend in Houston a "Redneck," and he calls me a "Greasy Mexican." No s*ht! But of course we're just joking with each other.
It's because some people here refuse to acknowledge the offensive nature of the word "Chinaman". Still claiming that it's RARELY known, and it shouldn't be offensive because it tells the country origin of the person. Oh, how much I wish life could be that simply and innocent.
Intentionally or unintentionally, offending a percentage of your listeners with a racial slur is ALWAYS a big deal to a professional broadcaster.
Know that Spaniard/Mexican is OK. But Spic is not. Chinaman was used in a way to mean "Spaniard." I just hope you know that. If Stockton meant to say it in a mean way, I'd be there behind you. But because I know he didn't mean it that way I defer.
This whole discussion boils down to three things. 1. The term "Chinaman" is offensive. Ask any Asians, Chinese or otherwise and probably over 90% of them do find it offensive or are at least uncomfortable with the word. 2. Stockton will get plenty of complaints from people. 3. Stockton wasn't trying to offend anyone, so he'll issue an apology, and will probably never use that phrase again. Case closed. End of thread.
Awe come on Sir Jackie Chiles. You enjoyed it. You wouldn't be in here if you weren't interested. It was put aside with its own thread for the very purpose of debate and discussion.
I understand he may not have meant it in an offensive way, but to use the term at all is 1) an offense to some and 2)a display of his ignorance. For those he should apologize and then (hopefully) we move on. I think we may agree more than we disagree
No, I just glanced over the thread really fast to get confirmation that the arguments exchanged were exactly the same as in the previous threads. (And Another Brother still seems to be bitter that he inadvertently used a racially charged word and got called for it ).
I don't know what game you guys were watching but Steve Kerr was the one who said "Chinaman". And he should have used the term"Chinese" instead.
I guess you assume I aint no whitie. Of course, I would. As a matter of fact, I believe we all have biases, preferences, or whatever you call them. It's human nature. Racism is a strong word. I for one would not throw it around lightly. In my profession, I meet at least 40 to 50 new clients in person of all races every week. It's only my nature to give all people the benefit of the doubt.
