Can't decide if this is a sarastic post or not For the last time "chinaman" is .NOT equivalent to the terms Russian, Japanese, Mexican, Croation, American, Canadian etc. Read some of the many posts explaining this.
Who here jumps to conclusions. U just assume that I jumped to the conclusion that whoever said it is racist. I don't care if he is racist or not, but the mere fact that he used a "racist term" (note to DavidS: im not saying that he is personally racist, just that he used a racist term) on MLK Day is ironic, and he should know better. You are completely ignorant and unaware of the real reason why he said it. Before u know for sure, don't just predicate that everyone thinks that whoever said it is racist.
Well, that's why I defend Stocton. Because the "know offensive slur" is sooooooo vague, that it's almost not fair to expect ALL COMMENTATORS to use Chinese rather than Chinaman. So, I disagree with the use of the term "known offensive racial slur." That's why I said double-standard. Frenchman, Spainard, Mexican, Russiain, Nigieran, all don't play by the same rules. Chimanman is exclusive.
I suppose you should be an American History, or Chinese History major to commentate on TV? Don't you know that some of the commentators used to simply play the game? Cynthia Cooper? Stever Kerr? What education level should a person have to comment on a GAME, a SPORT? Maybe they should all take PC 101? National TV or not, what's the point? It all comes down to an individual in front of the TV. People can understand, everyone makes mistakes. Everyone is agreeing that it was a mistake. It wasn't intentional.
you just repeated what I said, no one but Stockton knows what his intentions were, that's why if anything, an acknowlegdement should be made by Stockton and/or TNT that "chinaman" was used on nationally televised TV without knowing that it was offensive.
Pole you've already said you don't like being called "white" how would you feel if you were in China and the Chinese kept on calling you "whitey" and then when you said you didn't like being called that they said "well we didn't know that was offensive because you are so white"? Pole I sympathize that your ancestors were poor sharecroppers. Heck my ancestors were poor rice farmers and some of them even came to work on the railroad in the 19th C. and were considered less than human. The problem is that its easy for someone European descent to say "This is American so why can't we all just be Americans?" when the truth is that as a majority European descent country those of us whose ancestors didn't come from Europe are constantly questioned about how American we really are. From my own example. I was born in Houston and grew up in Houston. I consider myself a Texan and an American. I scored a 680 for English on the SAT. Yet I still constantly hear white Americans say "My you speak good English for an Oriental". When people ask me what my nationality is I say American and I've had to endure white Americans saying "no really what is your nationality." So Pole why your daddy's daddy might have been a poor sharecropper in Bama at least y'all don't have to spend an hour explaining how you weren't born in a rice paddy but at St. Josephs hospital in Houston Texas. Its just not the same.
Stockton will probably just say, "I apologize if he offended anyone." And that will be that. Thus, my assumption will be correct. But if you can never know what's in a persons heart. I chose to give him the benefit of the doubt before I get angry at them.
davids; I don't understand why you are going to such length's to defend ignorance. I for one don't think Stockton is a racist and if he comes out and says he made an honest mistake and he's glad people have informed him I will accept that. At the same time ignorance aint an excuse and not worth defending.
Maybe Stockton thinks Yao is another Rik Smits and wanted to produce a nickname like the "Dunking Dutchman" but wasn't smart enough to think of an adjective. I'm Chinese and I winced immediately after he said that. It does offend me because I do understand its origins. Now, I know where DavidS is coming from. I've watched Dick Stockton since the NBA was on CBS and I don't think he meant any racism behind it. Nonetheless, he should acknowledge the situation and apologize, if just so I don't have to hear another commentator make that comment. DavidS, I know its a double standard that you can say Englishman, Dutchman, Frenchman, but you can't say Chinaman. But that's how it is. It wasn't the Chinese who misused that term but they (and other Asians) are the basis of ill will behind it.
Yes. You might not know what its like to constantly be questioned whether you are a real American but I do and it aint pretty.
Look at it this way. Do you really think that Stockton mean it in a mean way? Truthfully. Do you? Based on what you know of him from TNT.
It's not vauge though. I expect all commentators to use black or African - American, why can't I expect them to say Chinese. The double standard lies in the outrage that takes place after a racial comment is made.
But because you know this (about the double-standard), doesn't that give you a reason to be more understanding of him? To see it from Stocton's point of view? To at least understand how he could have made that error?
So are you saying he shouldn't apologize because he didn't mean it?? At least he could come out and say he didn't mean it like that. At least that clears up the ambiguity.
That's the thing DavidS, I think I know what Stockton meant but I can't be sure unless he comes out and tells us. Also, he should make it a public issue so it doesn't happen again.
