If Cheney has no interest in Halliburton and his deferred compensation is not really income or any real tie to the company, what to make of this? "In addition, the [Cheney's] tax return reports the payment of deferred compensation from Halliburton Company, in the amount of $178,437." 4/13/04 White House press release
Don't worry. It's just kickbacks from the sweetheart deals the Gov't made with Halliburton. Nothing to see here. Move on.
Well look what we’ve got here! Oh my! Both of you boys are in luck today. The_Conquistador is in a good mood and he is going to give you boys a second chance! Well, actually, I’m going to put this to a vote! I will let the people decide how I should both teach rimrocker and RMTex something about finance, as well as how I should punish them for implicitly accusing the Vice President of wrongdoing, when in this case there is none. What we have here is a young wounded doe, wandering around in a wilderness full of hunters. Amongst those hunters is The_Conquistador. Let's make this interactive! What should I do? A) Put a bullet in the doe’s chest and allow for a relatively pain-free death B) Strangle the doe with my own hands C) Tackle the doe, tie it down, and then cut its neck open and watch it bleed to death D) Tie the doe down and skin it alive E) HUMILIATE THE DOE, MUTILATE THE DOE, AND HURL THE DOE’s INNARDS ACROSS THE FOREST IN A SHOW OF STRENGTH At this point, I’m leaning towards E, but am open to suggestions.
I vote for E with an addendum. After claiming that you have completed E and are then shown to be wrong you divert your attention to another inflamatory, but trivial or inaccurate thread.
Choice F - Attempt to shoot the doe, but f*** it up so completely that you end up gutshot yourself. Once lying there bleeding from the self inflicted gunshot wound, claim victory in a manner befitting the Black Knight (I'll bite your legs off!) even as other hunters show up to put you out of your misery. Works in every other thread.
I'm seeing quite a few E's. I need more votes! MORE VOTES. Where are the liberals who want to tone done the rhetoric? Where are those wanting a more sensitive D&D? Let your voice be heard!
I know I'll see you Monday, but c'mon, it's deferred compensation for services he performed while at H...Remember, he was the head of H before becoming the VP and this is apart of the agreed package for him prior to becoming VP and he has no direct influence on which contracts get awarded to which company...The Dems see to that... Carry On...
Yes, we've heard all that before. And we've also heard that he does not benefit from his association with Halliburton and even if he did he gives it to charity. But by giving it to charity, he gets a deduction which is also a benefit. It wouldn't be a big deal if he just owned up to it, but Cheney and his minions insist on saying otherwise.
If history teaches us anything, before this is all over the doe is going to be squatting over TJ's bruised and battered body, marking it, so that all of the other deer will know that he has been irretrievably- OWNED!
So true. It is a financial interest and a potential conflict of interest. So said a Congressional Report last year. But one that could quite readiliy be addressed and managed. Shouldn't be a big deal -- except they won't even acknowledge it. Pretty well standard practice of this administration. We had a thread on this a while back.
OK, I'm about to leave Tucson and drive back to Northern NM. Between now and the next time I get on, I'd appreciate if someone could find the earlier Cheney-Halliburton thread so we can compare what was said then to the tax info released by the WH. I suspect it will also be enlightening for those on both sides of the debate.
Actually, by giving it to charity, he's not getting a benefit. When he gives it away, it counts as income and then as a deduction, so from his bank account purposes, its as if he never got it. For example: Non Halliburton income : $100k Halliburton income: $100k Total Income $200k Donate Halliburton income: -$100k Taxable Income: $100k Tax: $30k After taxes: $70k If Halliburton did not exist Non Halliburton income: $100k Total Income $100k Taxable Income: $100k Taxes: $30k After taxes: $70k As for the deferred comp, a lot of people instead of being paid say $1mm in one year, will ask for that salary over 3 or 4 years. So that could possibly be it, though I can't remember what the old thread said. Alternatively, this could be deferred bonuses paid on how the company does over a long period of time, which would jive with him donating it.
Apparently, now the liberals have issue with donating money to charity! It never ends! What a joke. Forget completely about the *good* that donating money to charity creates. Forget about the AIDS research, the foster children, and the handicapped that the money helps! If you donate money to a cancer research charity, then the liberals complain about your tax write-off! Is there any group of people who could twist and distort the situation more than this? Talk about focusing on the negative! The Democrats: The Party of Pessimism. This is proof positive. MORE VOTES people. I want to make sure rimrocker and RMTex get your desired punishment.
direct proof that your mind deliberately blocks off reading things you don't want to believe. just curious, why do you write the way you do? your method of logical analysis would be more believable if it didn't sound like it was written by a fanatic. seriously, you sound exactly like a Soviet Union propaganda ad. every. single. time. you post in the D&D, and it really hurts any validity in your arguments.
Was this 'HUMILIATE THE DOE, MUTILATE THE DOE, AND HURL THE DOE’s INNARDS ACROSS THE FOREST IN A SHOW OF STRENGTH' I some how expected that to look a little different. Anyway, nobody is complaining about Cheney giving anythign to charity. People are complaining about Cheney saying he receives no benefit from Haliburton.
No group, just one person... From today's Washington Post... Bush found a way to make not one, not two, but three factual errors in a single 15-word sentence, which must be something of a world indoor record. Bush said it is still possible that inspectors will find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. "They could still be there. They could be hidden, like the 50 tons of mustard gas in a turkey farm," he said, referring to Libya's WMD disclosures last month. The White House, according to Reuters, said the accurate figure was 23.6 metric tons or 26 tons, not 50. The stuff was found at various locations, not at a turkey farm. And there was no mustard gas on the farm at all, but unfilled chemical munitions. Other than that, the sentence was spot on.
I understand that Mr Cheney is in the intercontinental hotel in the Galleria. He came in last weekend and the FBI and HPD officers have been making their presence known with their bomb sniffing dogs and high level military control. I work in a building right next to the hotel. My only question is this - what is he doing in Houston? In Houston for now at least 6 days? How come no news outlet is carrying this visit? Is it a high level/confidential mission? The initial rumour was that the person "causing" all the traffic comotion on the south loop west (between San Felipe and Westheimer) was an Arab diplomat but my property manager told me it is Richard Cheney himself. Oh well....
