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Chemistry vs Talent

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by dham01, Oct 1, 2010.

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What's more important to a winning team?

  1. Team Chemistry

    75 vote(s)
    49.7%
  2. Talent

    76 vote(s)
    50.3%
  1. rhino17

    rhino17 Member

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    absolutely

    every championship team has had talent, not all had chemistry
     
  2. sammy

    sammy Member

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    The more talented team will almost always win a 7 game series.

    It's like the old saying.. you can't teach height.
     
  3. thetatomatis

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    Luckily this years Rockets might have both. I would call a team with a potential for every guy in our starting lineup to go double digit scoring plus several of their backups talented. The chemistry part? If we have n abundance of that? We can compete for a Championship. I call our lineup balanced talent. The kind where you have 4 guys who can score 20 points in a night Yao, Scola, Martin, Brooks. Then have their backups go off for above 10 a night Budinger, Lee, Lowry, Battier. Thats balanced talent. Usually you have superstars and the talent is all in one or two or three guys. When you have a bunch of depth and a bunch of good backups? Thats like Detroit and Houston. One guy Hakeem and a bunch of balanced talent. Detroit? A bunch of balanced talent. Thats what this team has. its not all in two players and a bunch of scrubs. Its spread out more evenly.
     
  4. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    You're talking about the 95 team that had the best center of all time and the best shooting guard of the era not named Jordan.

    Chemistry comes with talent as long as you don't have a ball hog on the team.
     
  5. mdrowe00

    mdrowe00 Member

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    Yeah, rockbox....

    ...that's exactly what I meant about TALENT being more important than chemistry.

    At the very least, you don't have CHAMPIONSHIP-caliber chemistry if you don't have CHAMPIONSHIP-caliber talent.

    Clyde Drexler and Hakeem Olajuwon were never what anybody would call "facilitators", as we've come to know the term. Both of them had one-track minds, and that track led to putting the ball through the hoop.

    You didn't give The Dream or Clyde the Glide the ball and ask either of them to create a wide-open shot for Vernon Maxwell or Jerome Kersey. Not what either of them did best. And not what was going to get you a ring, rockbox.

    What you wanted to do was put guys around them who would, when the opportunity came, produce. In 1994, Hakeem had a high for season assists average of around 5 assists a game. You didn't give Olajuwon the basketball and tell him to decide who got the shot. You gave Olajuwon the ball and told him to score. IF he would pass, then the other people would get their chance. Drexler was the same way, to a lesser extent.

    They weren't considered "ball hogs" because they made their minds up fairly quickly what they were going to do offensively. They were going to be aggressive and try to score. They usually didn't get the ball before they were in optimal scoring positions. There had to be at least three people around either one of them before they passed the ball.

    Their decisiveness and TALENT made it extremely easy for their teammates to fall in line behind them, because they knew that Olajuwon would torture you anywhere from 15' and in, and Drexler would attack the basket from the wings.

    Unselfish players, to me, are players that do everything that they can to give their teams a chance to win. "Ball hogs" or "ballstoppers" (which is what you could say Olajuwon and Drexler were, essentially), are called that because they are the players you want FINISHING offensive possessions, because they give your team the best chance to get some points on the board. The key is WHEN you want the "ballstoppers" to get the ball in their hands.

    Phil Jackson did this masterfully with Michael Jordan during the Bulls' run of dominance. Most of what the Bulls did offensively was run-of-the-mill...trying to get a shot for other guys early in the offensive possession. But once the shot clock had gotten down to under 10 seconds and nothing had happened, it was Jordan's time. This raised Jordan's efficiency because he had time and space to work because of all the early action of the offensive possession (where he was largely a decoy to get defenses moving and out of position), and not having to worry about creating the best shot for his team because of the dwindling shot clock—which lent itself to Jordan's mindset of scoring before passing, anyway.

    Jordan had to learn, of course, how to do other things (primarily playing without the ball for stretches), but that's how you get TALENT to work with chemistry.

    Define what your best players' roles are. Decide who's going to score, and where they're going to get their opportunities to score.

    The talent creates the opportunities. The chemistry takes advantage of them.
     
  6. melvimbe

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    I think you got to have balanced talent, meaning talent at all/many aspects of the game (defensive, 3 pt shooting, rebounding, etc)....which will lead to chemistry if you have good character guys.

    Last year's team is a good example. Lots of talent I think, but lack of interior defense, interior offensive, and clear go to guy, made us unbalanced. I suppose team chemistry as far as we know, but then again we hear about Ariza not getting along with folks.

    You could also look at it as winning builds chemistry.
     
  7. smasstastic

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    When was the last time the first pick in the nba draft won an NCAA championship?
     
  8. redao

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    this bbs just love chemistry, defense, mediocrity, which everyone can have.


    talent, offense, winning are something never seen by clutchfans.
     
  9. Malcolm

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    Chemistry is formed by talent. Teams that have the best chemistry has it because of veritility of talent that complements each other to form a cohesive unit.

    All Contenders have the following on their teams
    shooters
    scorers
    passers
    man defenders
    help defenders
     
  10. david_rocket

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    Talent is more important, look, if Yao is healthy the most part of the season and the playoffs, the rockets will be the 3rd seed in the conference, but with Yao injured, rockets will be like the 7th seed. and that is with the same team chemistry.

    in the playoffs with only team chemistry you only can win 1 or 2, but with only talent, you can win 3 or 4.
     

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