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Cat for Szczerbiak?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by MadMonk, May 6, 2003.

  1. verse

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    so would minnesota...
     
  2. RocketFan85

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    Forget Wally lets trade for a real player like Shareef Abdur-Rahim . He can score from anywhere on the court, rebounds great, gets alot of steals. He would be a great player for the Rockets because we can run the fast break with Francis and Posey, and can play in the post along side Yao. Griffin or Taylor or Cato would have to be traded to make room though.
     
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    I have no problems trading Mobley for a perfect deal, but you make it sound like you want to just do "best available" all over again.

    My point is that our strength is Yao and our guards...dammit. Our guards being our problem is overrated. Sticking with our perimeter strength by adding a 3rd real guard allows us to do Mobley addition by subtraction by limiting his minutes.

    Further, #33, Francis at the 1, Mark Jackson, Rice, Moochie, MoT, Eddie...trading KT too early...all this is just a sign that this mgmt is making moves too quickly.

    I understand how you are saying that Rice is some sort of trade asset because of his expiring contract...but that is not for us to say...that is for other teams to point out to us. Teams who likely suck.

    You said Mobley and Griffin are our two main trade assets. My point is that Mobley and Griffin are our two main trade assets for awhile. If we start winning 50 games trading Mobley, our picks suck. We might get to 50 games just through free agency and chemistry changes. We need to make sure Mobley and Griffin are really used the fix our final problems. How can we say that we even know our "final problems" right now...we have so many of them.

    You, yourself, already said that you'd trade Mobes for a PG or PF. How can you be so uncertain? What is our real problem? Is it PF and defense/rebounding, or is it Francis *must* move to the 2. How can you say you know, right now?

    Also, if you move Mobley for a PG, you risk never getting a PF again via big trade. You are banking on EG becoming that PF. I just don't see EG drawing a PF back if he fails here.
     
  5. heypartner

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    also, it is never splitting time between SF/CM at one position. It is using 3 guards to play two positions...Francis comes down to 38 minutes; Mobes 30mpg, and that gives guard #3 28 mpg to 35mpg depending on how tolerant you are to 3-guard lineups.

    It's seems like the idea that moving SF to the 2 requires trading Mobley is assuming you are getting a PG worthy of 38 mpg. I don't think that is necessary...and if it is, you are sooo trading Mobley or EG for that player (not FAncy) so you are then left with only one trade asset for how many years?
     
  6. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Sorry, I need one more opportunity to bash Waltzy. Beyond his apparent like of heart and a demonstrated lack of smarts, his season stats show the following trend.

    For the three seasons, 2000-2003, his FG %, assists and rebounds have declined year-to-year. To me, this says that he's concentrating more and more on simply getting his shots and points. Notice that I'm not even ragging on his playoff performance. Basically, if the game speeds up even 0.1 mph, Waltzy is dead meat. Picture his game as he ages just a bit.

    Overall, I get Clutch's points, and it does seem like Mobley is a logical choice to move, (hopefully not for Waltzy) but I sure hope we can keep him around as an amazing 6th man.
     
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    In Cat's defense...he did have a bad shooting hand all season. Griffin is just 21 and this was Mo's first full season back and as for those of us who know about sports injuries the pain and tightening never goes away. Oh yeah...and for those who forget, this was Yao's first season. Besides a hefty lifting program I would also like to see Yao stop using that off-arm to separate from defenders. When top refereeing officials break down the season they will talk about the offarm and look for it more religiously causing him SOPHMORE problems. And the final thing...find someone to take moochie and then draft steve blake with our second round pick. he doesn't look to shoot first and that's the kind of player the rockets desparately need. We will also need to clear cap and roster space to keep Posey. He fits this team like a glove. that could mean saying goodbye to Rice and Tmo. Look for the Rox to exercise Tmo's option and then trade him away for a future 2nd round pick. The Nuggets and Cavaliers would be interedted in a SF. Look for Hawkins and Collier to walk.
     
  8. Htownhero

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    I agree with Clutch's points on this. If Wally and Cat made the same money, I think it's a no brainer trade for us, but they don't....by a lot. 4 or 5 million more a year is enough to kill this deal for me.
     
  9. KeepJuaquin

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    I like Wally. But he would be horrible on our team.

    To be on the Rockets.....you have to be a good iso one-on-one player.

    Wally can't create anything by himself.

    He's an okay player.

    But he would be horrible.....worse than Moochie!!!!

    If you watched the playoffs...he did not contribute much. Didn't step up....

    Anyways......

    Cuttino Mobley for Brent Barry in Inside Stuff would delight me with pleasantry!
     
  10. sonique15

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    that would be a horrible trade for Houston, Cuttin is alot better at creatin his own shot than Wally boy is, he's also a better shooter, shoots a lil too much at times but still a better shooter.......Plus, If we trade Cat for Sczerbiak what do we have to lure Brand?? ;)
     
  11. ChenZhen

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    Cat is NOT a better shooter than Wally. What games have you been watching?
     
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    Did anybody catch the overtime game of Wolves v. Lakers where Wally turned the ball over during regulation to "lose" the game to overtime & then turned the ball over 2 or three more times in overtime? He's a scrub....
     
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    I'm not a Wally fan, and by no means am defending him, just ageneral comment that it's rough to judge a player's career and potential on one game... Of course, we EG fans base EG's future on his one big game as a rookie when he took it to the Lakers (nationally televised game, I believe it was). :)
     
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    This is not good! Szerbisjcbiwj is a LOSER because when its crunch time ha disappears somrthing Cat doesnt do he does the other option ALL FOR ME ME ME!!!:D
     
  15. Baqui99

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    not bad...
     
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    As you can see on the left, this will be my first post, I usually just read and ponder... but Dr. of Dunk's post made me want to post... anyway, my comments:

    Skeezerbiatch.... LMFAO :D
     
  17. dkim81

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    the prospect of getting KG for Taylor, Mobley, Griffin etc.. would be something the Rockets should jump at. Although we wouldn't have a deep bench, imaging having Yao and KG upcourt with Francis.
     
  18. RocketFan85

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    Get real never going to happen. In a perfect world maybe, and that is still a big maybe.....
     

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