1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Can we get Jamison?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Apr 26, 2002.

  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    129,003
    Likes Received:
    39,478
    He is exactly the type of SF we need, tough and can rebound.

    What do we have that GS would consider taking?

    KT + #5 pick? Would that be enough?

    DaDakota
     
  2. NugzFan

    NugzFan Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 1999
    Messages:
    1,172
    Likes Received:
    0
    ewww. you dont want jamison. he makes the max. is he worth it? i bet the warriors would jump all over that deal if it worked cap wise, which i doubt.
     
  3. R0ckets03

    R0ckets03 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 1999
    Messages:
    16,326
    Likes Received:
    2,042
    Why would we want Jamison? He is really a 4 isnt he? Plus I would not give up our fifth pick and KT for him.
     
  4. Prempeh

    Prempeh Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2000
    Messages:
    891
    Likes Received:
    5
    Wouldn't be a good fit IMO. Jamison is a 4. The only reason he's playing the 3 is because GSW needs to get Fortson on the floor somehow.

    If we are going to pay someone the max, I'd rather it be Rashard in a S&T.
     
  5. Drexlerfan22

    Drexlerfan22 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2002
    Messages:
    6,361
    Likes Received:
    520
    Reasons this is a bad idea:

    1. Jamison isn't really a SF. He's a PF. We have 3 of those.

    2. Jamison makes the max.

    3. Jamison doesn't even know what the word defense means, and he's even farther away from actually doing this mysterious "defense" thing. He gets beaten like a red-headed stepchild trying to stay in front of top small-forwards.

    4. For the fifth pick we could draft a real SF who has a doctorate in defense: Caron Butler.

    5. The Warriors wouldn't even want KT anyway. The reason Jamison had an off year was because they had to use him at SF (since there's no way Fortson could play the 3). They also have Troy Murphy sitting on the bench, and that's a guy who deserves minutes. They would like to trade Fortson or Jamison and get value back, but the only thing they don't want is another PF.
     
  6. WinkFan

    WinkFan Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2002
    Messages:
    3,987
    Likes Received:
    96
    Thank you for expressing my opinion for me.
     
  7. Scarface

    Scarface Supremely FocASSed
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 1999
    Messages:
    1,389
    Likes Received:
    1,021
    Gary St. Jean would jump all over that deal he would even throw in Fortson. That is a horrible trade.

    Drexlerfan22 hit the nail on the head and the only thing I can add to that is that Jamison has been known to whine to management about various things. I have heard this various times here in the Bay Area, but then again you can't always believe what you hear.

    This is how I would do the trade:

    Rice+Taylor+#5 for Jamison and their 1st rounders. Jamison is a huge liability on defense and frankly it would better suit the Rockets if they just avoided him at all costs.

    If we ain't getting the better end of the deal I don't want to make the trade. I think this team has a better chance at becoming good without 'Twan than with.
     
  8. JoeBarelyCares

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2001
    Messages:
    6,609
    Likes Received:
    1,883
    I got all excited about this post, until I saw it was about Antwan Jamison, not Jenna Jamison.
     
  9. GrEgOnOmIcS

    GrEgOnOmIcS Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2002
    Messages:
    460
    Likes Received:
    2
    I got all excited about this post, until I saw it was about Antwan Jamison, not Jenna Jamison.

    That's real sad.
     
  10. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    129,003
    Likes Received:
    39,478
    I can't believe that you guys watch him play. He is a SF, that has PF post moves.

    He averages over 20ppg and rebounds well, and is an adequate defender, and is only 25 years old.

    I would kill to have him teamed up with Cat and Francis....we would have another 3 headed monster.....so many scorers you could not guard them all...heck add Mo T in there and you have 4 solid scoring options and Cato to clean the glass.

    I like that....A LOT !!

    DaDakota
     
  11. TedRuxpin

    TedRuxpin Member

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2001
    Messages:
    648
    Likes Received:
    0
    Jamison wouldn't be a good fit for our time. I experimented with Jamison on my NBA2k2 game on XBOX. He didn't do that well. Therefore, from this experiment, I do not think he would be a good fit for our team.
     
  12. Hottoddie

    Hottoddie Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2000
    Messages:
    3,075
    Likes Received:
    15
    The only way Cato can clean the glass is, if you give him a bottle of Windex & a roll of paper towels. :D
     
  13. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 1999
    Messages:
    48,984
    Likes Received:
    1,445
    Man, if Scarface is right and they'd throw in Fortson, I'd definitely have to consider it.
     
  14. The Summit

    The Summit Member

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2001
    Messages:
    824
    Likes Received:
    13
    Thats hilarious! Counting on Cato to get rebounds is like counting on Mooch to play defense......
     
  15. Sane

    Sane Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2000
    Messages:
    7,330
    Likes Received:
    0
    Jesus, he must've averaged 10 rebounds a game after the break and you guys are STILL doggin' him?

    Jeez. Next thing you know we won't go after Duncan because he doesn't make facial expressions.
     
  16. haven

    haven Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 1999
    Messages:
    7,945
    Likes Received:
    14
    The Rockets need a shooter, not a scorer. Jamison is not a shooter. Ergo, the Rockets do not need Jamison. I do like him at the 4... but we already have a problem there with a log jam.
     
  17. trifle3A

    trifle3A Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2002
    Messages:
    84
    Likes Received:
    0
    how could you guys not see he is a post player that what rudy offense is at its best doesnt matter if he can shoot francis mobley they can take the jumpers now you have a post player we need and finally the offense will change look at charlotte its a similar team
     
  18. saleem

    saleem Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2001
    Messages:
    30,274
    Likes Received:
    14,713
    I know Jamison has had problems with defending 3's but how does he match up on defense against 4's like Malone, Webber and Wallace?
     
  19. RunninRaven

    RunninRaven Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2000
    Messages:
    15,268
    Likes Received:
    3,214
    I'd like to hear from Sideshow Swopa....errrr...I'd like to hear from Swopa on this trade, and on these players. ;)

    Seriously, would you do this, Swopa?
     
  20. Hottoddie

    Hottoddie Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2000
    Messages:
    3,075
    Likes Received:
    15
    Since you asked. Cato averaged over the 30 games after the All Star break:

    24.37 MPG (down from 25.17 MPG prior to the All Star game)
    5.93 PPG (down from 7.17 PPG prior to the All Star game)
    7.57 RPG (up from 6.56 RPG prior to the All Star game)
    1.50 BPG (up from 1.11 BPG prior to the All Star game)

    He did improve on his blocks & rebounds, but on a team that is sorely lacking in front line rebounding & defense, wouldn't it stand to reason that his numbers should be much better than that? He was tied for the year in rebounding by our PG & out rebounded by an undersized PF in KT. He was even beaten out in blocks per game by a rookie with one year of college. Oh yeah, one other thing, he shot 58% from the free throw line.

    Here's a comparison that'll make you want to throw up. If you extrapolate the numbers for the year to 48 MPG, you get these numbers:

    CATO

    48 MPG
    12.3 PPG
    13.1 RPG
    2.38 BPG

    OSTERTAG

    48 MPG
    10.6 PPG
    13.6 RPG
    4.73 BPG

    The last time I checked, most people that you ask, consider Ostertag to be a slug & yet, with the exception of scoring average, he out performed Cato in 2 key areas for a center, rebounds & blocks.

    Until Cato decides to add a mid-range jumper or a hook shot to his offensive repertoire & come to play every game, he's going to be a career backup & nothing more. Of course, that's just my opinion.
     

Share This Page