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  1. mc mark

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    Bush: "It’s Also Important For Me To Go On With My Life"…

    Austin-American Statesman

    President Bush defended his decision not to meet with the grieving mom of a soldier killed in Iraq, noting Saturday that lots of people want to talk to the president and "it's also important for me to go on with my life.'

    Bush said he is aware of the anti-war sentiments of Cindy Sheehan and others who have joined her protest near the Bush ranch.

    "But whether it be here or in Washington or anywhere else, there's somebody who has got something to say to the president, that's part of the job," Bush said. "And I think it's important for me to be thoughtful and sensitive to those who have got something to say.

    "But," he added, "I think it's also important for me to go on with my life, to keep a balanced life."

    The comments came as the size of the crowd of protesters in support of Sheehan, the California mother who came here Aug. 6 demanding to talk to Bush about the death of her son Casey, grew.

    Sheehan arrived with about a half-dozen supporters. As of Saturday there were about 300 anti-war protesters and approximately 100 people supporting the Bush administration.

    Sheehan is seeking a justification for the war, as well as for her son's death.

    "I don't want comfort from him," she said Friday. "I want answers. I want the truth."

    In addition to a two-hour bike ride, Bush's Saturday schedule included an evening Little League baseball playoff game, a lunch meeting with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, a nap, some fishing and some reading.

    "I think the people want the president to be in a position to make good, crisp decisions and to stay healthy," he said when asked about riding a bike while a grieving mom wanted to speak with him. "And part of my being is to be outside exercising."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/thenewswire/archive/2005/08/bush-itas-also-import_5666.html
     
  2. vwiggin

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    FranchiseBlade, I just want to say how glad I am you are on this board. :)
     
  3. GladiatoRowdy

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    Or O'Reilly correcting John McCain over whether torture actually works.
     
  4. No Worries

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    An unscripted W is a thing to behold.
     
  5. RocketMan Tex

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    Even better than 60% of the Comedy Channel......
     
  6. KingCheetah

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    "I think it's also important for me to go on with my life, to keep a balanced life."
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    Yeah, that sounds pretty bad.
     
  7. thegary

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  8. HayesStreet

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    Certainly every citizen has the right to protest. Not sure why it's reasonable to expect the President to sit down with each protester though.
     
  9. edwardc

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    You think he doesn't look bad right know man that bad .Why won't he give Not only Sheehan the answers she wants but the rest of America needs to know the truth about Iraq and why there was truly a need to be in Iraq .Because the reason he gave turned out not to be true .They still haven't found WMDs Yet.
     
  10. gifford1967

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    Definitely a stand up guy. I'm sure he will catch a raft of **** for this.


    Neighbor allows war protesters to camp on his land

    08/17/2005

    By ANGELA K. BROWN / Associated Press


    Dozens of war protesters camping along a road near President Bush's ranch are about to pull up their stakes — but they're not leaving.

    The group is moving about a mile away to a 1-acre corner lot, owned by an Army veteran who sympathizes with those at the vigil that started Aug. 6 by grieving mother Cindy Sheehan.

    "I just think people should have a right to protest without being harassed," Fred Mattlage told The Associated Press late Tuesday. "And I'm against the war. I don't think it's a war we need to be in."

    The makeshift campsite in ditches off the public road leading to Bush's ranch has attracted hundreds from around the country — protesters as well as Bush supporters holding counter rallies. That has caused traffic jams and road blockages in the rural area.

    But some residents are doing more than honking their horns or complaining. In fact, Mattlage's distant cousin who lives near the campsite, Larry Mattlage, fired his shotgun into the air Sunday.

    One man was arrested Monday night after authorities say he drove through part of the campsite, running over hundreds of wooden crosses bearing names of fallen U.S. troops. No one was hurt in either incident.

    "That's just horrible to desecrate a memorial to the soldiers," Fred Mattlage said. "That upsets me."

    He said he will not allow counter protests on his fenced-in property, which is about a mile closer to the ranch than the group's current site. And he is not designating his lot as an established protest site for other groups to use in the future.

    "This is for the cause of Cindy Sheehan, and they can stay as long as they want," Fred Mattlage said.

    Sheehan of Vacaville, Calif., lost her 24-year-old Casey in Iraq last year. She vows to continue the vigil through Bush's monthlong ranch visit unless he meets with her and other grieving families.

    They were to start moving their tents, anti-war banners and portable toilets to the new site Wednesday in preparation for a dusk candlelight vigil. It is one of about 1,000 such vigils across the country, an effort organized by liberal advocacy groups MoveOn.org Political Action, TrueMajority and Democracy for America.

    Protests are nothing new when Bush visits his ranch, but most are in Crawford city limits about 7 miles away. Sheehan's demonstration is the longest-running, most publicized and closest to the ranch.

    Tuesday morning, several landowners asked county commissioners to extend for at least 2 miles the no-parking zone on public roads around Bush's ranch. The ordinance now prohibits cars from stopping on the road within about a fourth of a mile. They submitted a petition of more than 60 landowners' signatures.

    The McLennan County Commission won't vote on the ordinance until after a public hearing next month. Sheehan's group would be long gone by then — even if it stayed on the public right-of-way — but she promised to return whenever Bush goes to his ranch.

    Bush, who said he sympathizes with Sheehan, has made no indication that he will meet with her. Sheehan and other families met with Bush two months after her son's death before she became a vocal opponent of the war.


    http://www.dentonrc.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D8C1CUFO3.html
     
  11. FranchiseBlade

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    Wow, that is a really cool guy. Whoever drove through and ran over the crosses bearing the names of fallen soldiers is sick. Way to support the troops :mad:
     
  12. wnes

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    A right wingnut from North Carolina yesterday afternoon called in on Air America Radio, claiming the guy who vandalized these crosses is "a true American hero." You have to wonder how much more perverse can these braggarts go?

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    Do this pair of pictures mean anything?

    Crosses vandalized at antiwar mom's Texas camp site

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    CRAWFORD, Texas, Aug 16 (Reuters) - A pickup truck ran over wooden crosses erected at anti-war protester Cindy Sheehan's campsite on Monday night, in the latest sign of tension over the peace vigil outside vacationing President George W. Bush's Texas ranch.

    Larry Northern, 46, of nearby Waco, Texas, was arrested and charged with criminal mischief in connection with the incident, Crawford Police Chief Donnie Tidmore said.
     
  13. MadMax

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    hero, my ass.
     
  14. mc mark

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    I guess he finally finished "My Pet Goat"............
     
  16. KingCheetah

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    This just cracked me up for some reason ~ now that is some fun summertime reading. :D

    Next up for G-Dub ~ Cooking with Salt
     
  17. thegary

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    Salt: A World History
    by Mark Kurlansky

    Quick Review by Chef James of the Food Reference Website.

    Did you know that salt has played a major role in human history, and its availability has frequently effected the type of governments we have? Humans need salt to live - it is a dietary necessity, so whoever has control of its production and/or availability, controls other people. This book discusses that and contains everything and anything you ever wanted to know about salt. It is a fascinating book, both for those interested in food, and history buffs. http://www.foodreference.com/html/salt.html


    OIL, texas tea, black salt
     
  18. vlaurelio

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    next up.. history of light..
     
  19. gifford1967

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    Mr. Northern:

    I am a Veteran of the Iraq war, having served with the 4th Infantry Division on the initial invasion with Force Package One.

    While I was in Iraq,a very good friend of mine, Christopher Cutchall,was killed in an unarmoredHMMWV outside of Baghdad. He was a cavalry scout serving with the 3d ID.Once he had declined the award of a medal because Soldiers assigned to him did not receive similar awards that he had recommended. He left two sons and awonderful wife. On Monday night, August 16, you ran down the memorial cross erected for him by Arlington West.

    One of my Soldiers in Iraq was Roger Turner. We gave him a hard time because he always wore all of his protective equipment, including three pairs of glasses or goggles. He did this because he wanted to make sure that he returned home to his family. He rode a bicycle to work every day to make sure that he was able to save enough money on his Army salary to send his son to college. At Camp Anaconda, where the squadron briefly stayed, a rocket landed inside a tent, sending a piece of debris or fragment into him and killed him. On Monday night, August 16, you ran down the memorial cross erected for him by Arlington West.

    One of my Soldiers was Henry Bacon. He was one of the finest men I ever met. He was in perfect shape for a man over forty, working hard at night. He told me that he did that because he didn't have much money to buy nice things for his wife, who he loved so much, so he had to be in good shape for her. He was like a father to many young men in his section of maintenance mechanics. They fixed our vehicles with almost no support and fabricated parts and made repairs that kept our squadron rolling on the longest, fastest armor advance ever made under fire. He was so very proud of his son-in-law that married the beautiful daughter so well raised by Henry. His son-in-law was a helicopter pilot with the 1st Cavalry Division, who died last year. Henry stopped to rescue a vehicle belonging to another unit on what was to be his last day in Iraq. He could have kept rolling - he was headed to Kuwait after a year's tour. But he stopped. He could have sent others to do the work, but he was on the ground, leading by example, when he was killed. On Monday night, August 16, you took it upon yourself to go out in the country, where a peaceful group was exercising their constitutional rights, and harming no one, and you ran down the memorial cross erected for Henry and for his son-in-law by Arlington West.

    Mr. Northern - I know little about Cindy Sheehan except that she is a grieving mother, a gentle soul, and wants to bring harm to no one. I know little about you except that you found your way to Crawford on Monday night in August with chains and a pipe attached to your truck for the sole purpose of dishonoring a memorial erected for my friends and lost Soldiers and hundreds of others that served this nation when they were called. I find it disheartening that good men like these have died so that people like you can threaten a mother who lost a child with your actions. I hope that you are ashamed of yourself.

    Perry Jefferies, First Sergeant, USA (retired)


    http://www2.operationtruth.com/dia/organizations/OpTruth/blog
     
  20. Deckard

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    General Ripper: "Do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water, why, there are studies underway to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk, ice cream? Ice cream, Mandrake? Children's ice cream!...You know when fluoridation began?...1946. 1946, Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual, and certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works. I first became aware of it, Mandrake, during the physical act of love...Yes, a profound sense of fatigue, a feeling of emptiness followed. Luckily I was able to interpret these feelings correctly. Loss of essence. I can assure you it has not recurred, Mandrake. Women...women sense my power, and they seek the life essence. I do not avoid women, Mandrake...but I do deny them my essence."


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