Im guessing Moniker is going to pull a Shawn Hannity on this one. Claim the womans a liar, that you have the quotes of her changing her story. When exposed that in fact your own facts are wrong, ignore it and either never speak of it again, or pretend that you never heard of the debunking of your own debunking.
I heard on the radio while I was heading out to lunch that there are now over 700 people, many of them Gold Star Mothers (Mothers of troops who were killed in Iraq). I will try to find a link to substantiate this.......
oh boy, aren't you the righteous one. it is my humble opinion that this great american patriot deserves our attention. and my president better step up to the plate and deal or he's gonna look way worse than he already does. okay?
yeah, that's it, i'm too good obviously i didn't see the other one or i would have posted there. i've been on vacation the last two weeks and haven't been on the site much. get a life and mind your own business. why don't you comment on camp casey rather than weakly trying to call me out.
Mute Bush drives by anti-war protestors CRAWFORD, United States (AFP) - US President George W. Bush drove past protestors rallied around a mother who soldier son was killed in Iraq, but did not stop or invite her to talk with him as she has requested. On his way to and from a political fundraiser near his Texas ranch, Bush's motorcade sped past the roughly 50 demonstrators gathered behind Cindy Sheehan, who clutched a sign that read "Why Do You Make Time for Donors And Not For Me?" http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/2005081...AUzW82s0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3OXIzMDMzBHNlYwM3MDM-
Is this also not about her meeting with the President. The fact is, she did not have one negative thing to say about Bush after meeting with him. Now, several months later, she suddenly realizes that - Hey, the way he referred to me as Mom in that meeting was disrespectful and he has no morals. I don't buy it. Of course she can change her mind about whatever she wants. That she changes her mind has no effect on historical fact. If Bush was disrespectful to her at their meeting and treated her badly, wouldn't she have said something at that time, instead of making only positive comments, both about her trip in general and the meeting in particular? Hey Dreamshake,
He already met with her, why do so again? She is only doing this for political attention. I am sorry she lost her son in the war but the President does not have to meet anyone.
i don't care if he meets with her or not, what would it change? i'd kinda rather he ignores her and her growing number of supporters so he can lose more face. she has put herself in a position to challenge the character of a man who refuses to listen to dissent. she is putting a human and brave and heroic american face to the growing displeasure with bush et al.
At this point it does not hurt him at all. He could lose more if he meets her. She is not looking to meet him to simply tell her story, she wants to do so to make him look bad. She is waiting to tell everyone the conversation . Who will he look bad to? The people who do not like Bush are still not going to like him and the people who support him will continue to do so.
Are you ignoring the facts on purpose, or do you not understand? She didn't make only positive comments at the time. The reporter and editor from the paper that did the interview already spoke about this and printed an artcile talking about her bitterness even after the initial meeting. She also explained that her and her husband chose initially not to be confrontational, despite having those feelings and urges. As both she, and others pointed out. She was respectful, and made respectful comments. That does not mean she was happy with the President. She merely highlighted the positive, and her comments show that. For others to try and play her off as someone only doing something for alterior motives is a horrible thing. She has lost a son, due to the president's policy. She was upset about it. How she grieves is up to her. She can express how ever she wants. The fact she has been consistent the whole time. The mere fact that conservatives tried to play off her comments about the trip to Seattle as if they were said about Bush himself shows you how disingenuious they are, and how they will try and trash anyone who shines a bad light on Bush. Demeaning someone's character like that based on politics is shameful. It is doubly shameful for a group that pats themselves on the back and boasts about how much they are the ones supporting the troops, and the other guys aren't.
Who are you to assign the motives of a grieving mother. You have no idea that she is doing this for political reasons. She isn't the one who tried to take someone's statements out of context or pretend that something she said about a trip to Seattle was said about Bush himself.
Neither did I. I am not sure if you know this but I am not Drudge nor did I post it. I posted the article from the republic that contradicted it. In my opinion she is only doing this for political reasons. She had the chance to talk to him and bring this up she chose not to out of respect for the office of the president. Her family also seems to think she has made this political. FAMILY OF FALLEN SOLDIER PLEADS: PLEASE STOP, CINDY! Thu Aug 11 2005 12:56:21 ET The family of American soldier Casey Sheehan, who was killed in Iraq on April 4, 2004, has broken its silence and spoken out against his mother Cindy Sheehan's anti-war vigil against George Bush held outside the president's Crawford, Texas ranch. The following email was received by the DRUDGE REPORT from Casey's aunt and godmother: Our family has been so distressed by the recent activities of Cindy we are breaking our silence and we have collectively written a statement for release. Feel free to distribute it as you wish. Thanks, Cherie In response to questions regarding the Cindy Sheehan/Crawford Texas issue: Sheehan Family Statement: The Sheehan Family lost our beloved Casey in the Iraq War and we have been silently, respectfully grieving. We do not agree with the political motivations and publicity tactics of Cindy Sheehan. She now appears to be promoting her own personal agenda and notoriety at the the expense of her son's good name and reputation. The rest of the Sheehan Family supports the troops, our country, and our President, silently, with prayer and respect. Sincerely, Casey Sheehan's grandparents, aunts, uncles and numerous cousins. Developing... http://www.drudgereport.com/flashcs.htm
and so what if she is. my understanding is that we americans are participants in the political process and that bush is a civil servant, our civil servant. she is not lying or deceiving anyone. she wants her voice to be heard. if she calls attention to the horrible neocon agenda and people relate to her then maybe all the smoke and hot air eminating from the administration will start to dissipate.
I believe she is using her tragedy to try and do what she feels is greater good. It does enter into the political realm, but she isn't doing this out of a predisposition to hate Bush, or support Democrats or the left wing. It seems like she is hurting and grieving and wants answers, feels betrayed, and wants to take action to stop it. Politics becomse necessarily involved, but I don't think that is the actual reason for her doing it. I know the aunt and grandmother are greiving as well, but it isn't their immediate family. I think they would be better off supporting the mother in how she chooses to deal with her son's loss. For them to get involved in any public manner is quite tasteless in my opinion.
On no ~ well if the uncle of his 3rd cousin decides to email Drudge then Casey's Mothers credibility is shot... Why do people use Drudge as a source? Duh.
What the hell Matt Drudge is doing here by messing with victim's other family members? Despicable acts. Go back to report Monica. You belong there.
They wrote it to drudge to get it out to the public quickly. It achieved its goal. People will believe what they want. She will not change anyones mind on the topic. She does however have the right to do this and I do not have a problem with it. I believe her motives are just not as they seem but that is just my opinion.
They wrote to him and he posted it. That was what they wanted. He did not track them down and make it up. At least read the article before you respond to it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/cindy-sheehan/camp-casey-day-6_5524.html 08.12.2005 Cindy Sheehan Camp Casey: Day 6 Day 6 began early yesterday morning when people in cars drove by our camp a few times and blasted on their horns. I just assume they were blaring their approval of us. Before we get to the less than negative things that are happening out at Camp Casey and in the world at large, over 700 people showed up at the Camp yesterday. There were more people, flowers, cards, mail, interviews, laughter, heartache, camaraderie, excitement, and just sheer work. We had the first birthday party last night at our little event. Alicia from Austin turned 17 and they came to Crawford to celebrate with a cake. Alicia said that she wanted to be out here for her birthday. So many great people from so many parts of the country and our world are here. Yesterday was kind of a blur to me. From running around from interview to interview, to getting a visit from Viggo Mortensen, it was a whirlwind of activity. I have discovered that the White House press corps is always looking for something to do and someone to cover. We have been happy to oblige them. We had a press conference today with Gold Star Families for Peace and Military Families Speak Out members. It was very effective when people who actually have skin in the game ask the president to be held accountable for the words he has actually said. Still putting out the O'Reilly fires of me being a traitor and using Casey's name dishonorably, my in-laws sent out a press statement disagreeing with me in strong terms; which is totally okay with me, because they barely knew Casey. We have always been on separate sides of the fence politically and I have not spoken to them since the election when they supported the man who is responsible for Casey's death. The thing that matters to me is that our family -- Casey's dad and my other 3 kids are on the same side of the fence that I am. November 2, 2004 was not George Bush's accountability moment: today is. We are finished allowing him to get away with deceiving the American public and abusing his power. We are mad as hell and we're not taking it anymore. Posted at 12:14 PM | email this post to a friend | permalink | comments
