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Brawls in Hockey

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by 3814, Mar 9, 2004.

  1. 3814

    3814 Member

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    not sure if any of you see this...but last week there were repeated all-out fights in the philadelphia/ottawa game - goalies fighting and everything. there were only 7 players left on philly at the end of the game and 6 for ottowa (instead of 19 each).

    then tonight - watch sportscenter. vancouver vs colorado. todd bertuzzi (one of the leagues stars) simply mauled steve moore of colorado (who had injured the canucks other star player three weeks ago with a cheap hit). that led to lots of fighting - more than there were before that fight. huge rivals and lots of knuckles thrown.

    great entertainment.
     
  2. Molotov Cocktail

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    Bertuzzi hit on Moore

    There's the video. I'm a pretty die-hard Canucks fan, but that was uncalled for, even if it was a revenge hit. Bert dropped Moore like a sack of potatoes. I wouldn't be too surprised if he gets suspended the rest of the season for that stunt.
     
  3. Summer Song Giver

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    i'm not a hockey fan but I don't understand why they don't wear a more football style helmet, I know if I played I would. Who was it, Roenik who took a putt off the face this year?
     
  4. Castor27

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    You want to see some good fights go to an ECHL game. I work for the league and the team in Beaumont, and I have seen some bench clearing brawls, as well as, a couple of guys get one punched.It's always fun to see some of these guys go at it.
     
  5. 4chuckie

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    Bertuzzi is a big, talented POS.

    he needs a VERY LONNNNNNNNNNG suspension.
     
  6. bnb

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    Piece of shiznit
     
  8. 4chuckie

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    Reports out of Canada is Moore has a broken neck (c3 and c4 verterbrae).
    not a good thing for anyone involved.
     
  9. Nuggets4

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    Bertuzzi better go to jail. I mean a federal pound him in the ass jail. What a piece of ****.

    Moore's first hit was, even according to most Nuck fans, a 2 minute minor. Bertuzzi's is a felony. **** him and **** Vancouver.
     
  10. across110thstreet

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    Canucks' Bertuzzi suspended indefinitely


    NEW YORK - Vancouver Canucks forward Todd Bertuzzi has been suspended indefinitely, without pay, after being assessed a Match penalty for deliberate injury of Colorado Avalanche forward Steve Moore during NHL Game #1028 Monday night.

    The penalty was assessed at 8:41 of the third period.
    A hearing will be conducted Wednesday at 9 a.m., ET, at the League's Toronto office.
     
  11. PieEatinFattie

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    I am a hockey fan and I have played hockey and I can tell yeah that a Football helmet would be too heavy and would obstruct your vision too much. Most guys that I know would prefer to wear no helmet at all for that purpose alone. The ONLY reason I wear a helemt and shield is because the people that I skate with can not skate very well. I have a better chance of being hit in the head with a arrent stick than getting run into the boards or hit with a puck.
     
  12. 3814

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    yeah...it's vancouver's fault :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

    did canucks want revenge: yes
    did vancouver want revenge: yes

    did we get what we wanted: no

    we would have been happy with a win...not a 9-2 black monday and now bertuzzi out much longer than naslund was. hell, it doesn't even matter to you as a fan - it hurts the canucks much more. but i guess to both of us - it should matter the same way as a person - somebody was intentionally hurt, and that should not happen - for the love of the sport it shouldn't happen.

    i mean, moore ducked fights all night - and REALLY should NOT HAVE BEEN ON THE ICE when winning 9-2 and knowing that canucks wanted to fight him all night - but that's somewhat beside the point.

    the point is - bertuzzi should get suspended for sure. but let us (yeah, us, colorado fans AND vancouver fans) learn from this and hope the rest of the league does as well. revenge SHOULD be sweet - not like this.

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    sidenote: i understand where bert is coming from - his best friend on the nucks got a concussion from moore 3 weeks ago...he was sticking up for his friend - obviously he did it wrong and reports are he feels bad about the way it went down...at least there was a motive behind this...because if hockey ever gets crap like this happen without a motive - then we've lost the sport.
     
  13. MadMax

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    that motive will only help the prosecution's case.

    seriously..absolutely ridiculous...completely out of the scope of the game.
     
  14. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I don't watch Hockey because of all the thugs.
     
  15. Pole

    Pole Houston Rockets--Tilman Fertitta's latest mess.

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    How's that agenda working out for you?
     
  16. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I see all you can do is be a smart ass about it and can't really refute it. So I guess its working great.
     
  17. Molotov Cocktail

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    Moore out for year

    3/9/2004

    VANCOUVER (CP) - Colorado Avalanche forward Steve Moore, sucker-punched from behind by Canucks star Todd Bertuzzi, will miss the rest of the season with a fractured neck as bad blood led to a bad injury.



    Bertuzzi, meanwhile, faces the wrath of the NHL and possibly the police.



    Moore, a rookie with modest numbers for the Avs, crashed face first to the ice following Bertuzzi's punch in the third period of Colorado's 9-2 win Monday night.



    Related Info
    Avs' Moore taken off on stretcher

    The Canucks power forward landed on top of Moore, who was targeted because of a hit last month that sidelined Vancouver captain Markus Naslund with a concussion.



    Police are investigating the incident, which also left Moore with a concussion. He will remain in hospital in Vancouver ``for an indefinite period of time,'' the Avs said.



    ``Regardless of the fact that this involves a player in the National Hockey League, this will be a routine assault investigation,'' said Const. Sarah Bloor, a spokesman for the Vancouver Police.



    ``Crown counsel will be responsible for making a decision as to whether or not anyone is charged.''



    Bertuzzi has been suspended pending a hearing with the NHL in Toronto on Wednesday.



    The league issued a statement saying executive vice-president Colin Campbell, who handles discipline for the NHL, and Bertuzzi would not comment until a disciplinary decision was reached.



    The general managers of both teams held separate news conferences Tuesday. Canucks GM Brian Burke said Bertuzzi had planned to meet the media but was ``too distraught to come here today.''



    ``It's been too emotionally difficult for him,'' he said.



    ``Right now he's very upset about what happened. In terms of the incident, he's remorseful and relieved that Mr. Moore's injuries at this point appear, that a full recovery should be possible.''



    Bertuzzi had tried to contact Moore at the hospital, in addition to trying to speak to the Avalanche trainer, Burke said.



    The Canucks GM, while wishing Moore ``nothing but the best in terms of recovering from this injury,'' declined comment on the incident himself.



    Colorado GM Pierre Lacroix was also guarded.



    ``We hope as an organization that Steve will recover,'' Lacroix said, adding more medical tests are planned.



    ``All I know that his spirit, under the circumstance, is good,'' Lacroix added.



    He avoided offering any more medical information, saying that was best left to doctors.



    Lacroix also did not want to talk about a criminal investigation, saying he just wanted his player to get well.



    ``I don't want to think of anything else,'' he said.



    It was in Vancouver that Marty McSorley, then with the Boston Bruins, was charged with assault after knocking out then-Canuck Donald Brashear with a stick to the head in February 2000.



    McSorley, suspended by the NHL for a year, was convicted of assault and given an 18-month conditional discharge.



    Moore's injuries are extensive.



    ``Exams have revealed that Steve sustained a concussion and a cervical injury (neck fracture) and will be out at least for the remainder of the season,'' head Colorado trainer Pat Karns said in a statement.



    ``He also suffered deep facial lacerations and abrasions to the forehead, right cheek and upper lip.''



    As soon as his condition allows it, the 25-year-old from Windsor, Ont., will be transferred to Craig Hospital in Denver, the statement continued.



    On a team stacked with stars, Moore is a checking forward who has four goals and seven assists in 57 games this season, 13th in scoring on the Avs. He has 37 penalty minutes.



    Bertuzzi is a bona-fide star, a native of Sudbury, Ont., who signed a $27.8-million US four-year contract in October. While known for his big hits - his hard-hitting checks were featured in a TV commercial for Gatorade - he usually steers away from fights.



    He has 17 goals and 43 assists, second best on the Canucks. He also has 122 penalty minutes.



    Bertuzzi was suspended 10 games two years ago for coming off the bench to join an on-ice fight.



    But bad blood between Colorado and Vancouver, currently No. 2 and No. 4 in the West, had been simmering since Moore's hit on Naslund during a game Feb. 16 in Denver. Naslund suffered a concussion that cost him three games.



    Moore wasn't penalized for the hit and the league took no action.



    Vancouver coach Marc Crawford called Moore's hit ``a cheap shot by a young kid on a captain, the leading scorer in the league.''



    The two teams met in Denver on March 3 but there was little action in a 5-5 tie. That changed Monday night as the score became lopsided in Colorado's favour.



    Asked how far over the line Bertuzzi's hit was, Colorado coach Tony Granato said: ``We have too much to offer in our game for something like this. Does it cross the line? Of course it does.''



    But Lacroix said the NHL would do the right thing.



    ``I have full trust they will do the appropriate action.''



    The Avs GM also said he had not heard from the Canucks.



    ``I haven't heard from nobody,'' he said, adding Bertuzzi's agent had made a call to request information.



    The Moore injury is the latest black eye for the NHL, following a brawl-filled game last Friday between the Ottawa Senators and Philadelphia Flyers, which set an NHL record of 419 penalty minutes.



    And the league will not be pleased that the Bertuzzi bloodbath tarnished NHL trade deadline day - normally a dream day for hockey junkies.



    ``This is not the way we're going to make people love the sport,'' said Lacroix, who refused to be drawn into further debate.



    The Denver Post called the incident ``an ugly piece of frontier justice.''



    ``Even with the animosity between Colorado and Vancouver seemingly building by the second, nobody expected it to come to this,'' said the Rocky Mountain News.



    Bertuzzi received a match penalty for his hit on the Avalanche centre Monday.



    The two teams don't meet again during the regular season.



    Colorado cancelled a planned skate Tuesday morning at GM Place. The team was to fly to Edmonton later in the day for a game Wednesday against the Oilers
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    Seeing as how there are only 13 games left in the regular season, I think he's gone for that and possibly the playoffs as well.

    All in all, just a really ugly event and one that embarrassed me as a Canucks fan. It can be argued that Moore shouldn't have even been playing, since the score at that point was 8-2, and his coach knew full well he was marked, but still....

    Bertuzzi's an emotional player, and sometimes his emotions get the best of him. I think the combination of the game and Moore refusing to answer the bell (fighting Matt Cooke, one of the smallest Canucks, with his visor on, does NOT count) caused him to just snap. From all the news outlets I've read, he is devastated with what happened.

    Still doesn't make it right though, and I'll support the suspension he gets.
     
  18. 4chuckie

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    It's hockey you only have 12 forwards so regardless of the score all 12 forwards will play.
    I'm glad teh Nucks got their revenge. It sucks Moore got hurt but it is just to have Bertuzzi to be gone the rest of the year. He is a large pansy who disappears in the playoffs.

    PS - You got Geoff Sanderson from the CBJ today as another LW. I wish you luck int eh playoffs but if Bertuzzi is ont eh playoff roster I sincerely hope you get knocked out int eh 1st round.
     
  19. MadMax

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    i'm telling you...this guy will be lucky if a suspension is all he gets.
     
  20. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Don't you find it a little hypocritical criticizing me when your handle is based on your ethnicity.
     

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