Man, that is a goofey chart. They could have done a better job by pulling random names and dates out of a hat.
you dont actually expect anything that is related to the Bible and organized religion to actually make SENSE do you?
So is my assumption correct? I have always assumed that the Bible's author(s) are unknown. Is this true? If not who are the EXACT author(s) of the Bible?
Well, some are unknown and some aren't. But they've given them names like the patristic father, etc. Did you check out the link I gave you?
rimmy, they are authors traditionally attributed to the Bible books. Some biblical scholars may not agree with all of those. Some other scholars argue for the traditional positions. Either way, those aren't "random" names and dates. LP, "unknown" has different degrees. Technically, the authors of the US Constitution is "unknown" if you want absolute certitude. But we seldom doubt those things for various reasons. How much a person trust the traditional attribution depends quite a bit on that person's basic assumption/worldview.
Easy, the Bible and Constitution are two completely different things. There isn't a person listed in the Constitution telling you to follow and worship him and telling you how to act, what to do, where to be, how your afterlife will end up, etc.
Some of them weren't traditional and a lot of the dating was heavily weighted towards the radically conservative Christian scholar. My random comment was that random would be more accurate and, as such, was a joke of extremes.
Well, to a lot of people, the Constitution affects their lives much more than the Bible. Aren't they supposed to be very sure how it came to be? I know the Bible and the Constitution are very different things. I just gave an example of how much/little we know about some important document in the past, and how much we trust them without even thinking.
Yes, they belong to the conservative side. That's why I said they are the "traditional" views. As to how "radical" something is depends on how radical you are on the other side of the spectrum.
Dinosaurs on the Ark -now that's funny Can't you just say they were aleady extinct before the Great Flood or does the bible have to fit some timeline? I always wondered why the Catholic Church just doen't claim they have found a mistake in the translation from the Greek to the King James Version and seven days was really seven billion years. That takes away all those confusing geology problems. Lil P here's the real definition of agnostic: Agnostic - an atheist with no balls
Just why is an agnostic an atheist with no balls? Explain why you think an agnostic just doesn't have the courage to dismiss God totally and call themsef an atheist.
Because religion and belief in God has no basis in rationality. Acceptance of the existence of God as the creator of the 25 billion light year in diameter universe, that designed the reactions of subatomic particles of 10 to the -33 cm, that created man in his own image, that sent his Son to be crucified 2000 years ago and hasn't been heard from since is totally a leap of faith. To say that there is a God but we do not know anything about his nature, you have assumed a postion that has neither tradition or logic behind it. One can say there observable phenomenon, mass, energy etc. that seems to exist but we do not really know the nature of it. I suppose you could say there seems to be order to the universe and I believe order requires design. But the argument that, if the universe started with the big bang then there must have been a god on existence to make it happen, just begs the question of what existed before god. And if god is eternal then why couldn't the physical unverse be eternal? So my joke about agnostics is the most people that say they are agnostic have not taken the leap of faith required to be a religiuos person yet they do not have the courage of their convictions to come out and say they are atheist and face the consequences. You will be socially outcast, not too long ago you would have been burned at the stake. You have to deal with the fact that this life is the sum total of your existence and you spend all your time screwing nuts on bolts in an assembly line. I don't find too much problem with a moral code though. Hell for an atheist is a guilty conscience.
No, I'm agnostic. If there is one thing I do know, it is that I don't really know anything about the nature of the universe. The concept of God doesn't seem logical to me so that's the way I lead my philosophical life, but really I don't know anything for sure. One thing about being agonstic/atheist is that there is no evangelical imperative. I never want to try to change a religious person's mind unless they start trying to force their religion on me. On the contrary, the more religious another person is, the more I can count on him to be honest in his dealings with me. Read my signature, we all dellude ourselves to some extent or we just couldn't deal with the violence, cruelty, hate and horror we find in this world.Religion is just another form of self-delusion.
2 things of note-- 1. The Catholic church does not hold that the creation of the earth took place in 7 days exactly.... It very well could of, but it keeps in mind that the writer also could have been using a metaphor.... 2. Reason does take place in religion and to an extent in belief... See this article from the Summa contra gentiles, written by Thomas Aquinas almost 800 years ago...yet still oh so true... http://www.nd.edu/Departments/Maritain/etext/gc1_8.htm Have a nice day.
It's kind of shocking that you are agnostic, considering what you said about them in your previous post. So, are you really saying you're an atheist that hasn't come out the closet? Like you, I hate it when people who have religious faiths always try to sway my opinion in their favor or try to change my views but I don't do the same thing to them. I always have said you can believe what you want but don't try to change the way I feel. People who have religious faiths always make that mistake and try to tell me that I am wrong. I always tell them I can't prove your beliefs anymore wrong than you can prove mine so let's end it there. I even had one person say that they could and I told them go for it and try to but unless you have a time machine, good luck!
