1) I've been trying to figure out if there is a term for your belief. I was inclined to suggest "antitheist" but that is just another term for atheist. If you believe there is a God but reject the various religions that claim he is deserving of your worship there are a few different terms that could apply. From a Jewish position, anyone who isn't Jewish is a gentile. From a Christian perspective the term is "unbeliever" (that is, not believing the gospel). The Muslim term is "infidel". These three terms seem to get at the problem of a person who might be fine with the idea of God existing but rejects worship.
Psalm 109:8 "May his days be few; may another take his place of leadership. " j/k. I'm a Rudy supporter.
Christians are not too worried about the Old Testament because Christ came to start a new life which was a break with the traditional ways of the Jews. Christ came to save all from sin and by His Life and Resurection, showed us by Example and Word how we are to live and be saved. So If you are still concerned about these questions I would ask about them only in regards to the New Testament of Christ. The Jews of course follow the ways of the Old Testament.
That is a very LAX interpretation! Dont you know you can committ adultery even by desire of another woman in the physical sence, while you are married. Under no circumstances is one allowed to marry a divorced person without dispensation from the Church, or being excommunicated by the Church.
I don't see how it can be considered a lax interpretation when the phrase 'any reason except sexual immorality' comes straight from the mouth of Jesus Christ himself. Of course the terms 'excommunication' and 'dispensation from the church' are found nowhere in the Bible either.
<b>Lil Pun,</b> the supposed disproof you mention regarding Noah's ark is not applicable, because the Bible uses the word "kinds," not "species," and there are far fewer kinds, than species. The word "species" had not been invented yet, and Moses didn't have Darwin to consult. If you were to compare the word "kind" to a word in modern science, it would be closer to "family." When you do the math with kinds, the ark would have fit them, including the dinosaurs ... but I sure wouldn't have wanted to be Noah, cleaning up after them.<a href="http://www.icr.org/pubs/btg-b/btg-039b.htm"> Here's a little more on the subject,</a> if you are interested.
<b>Lil Pun,</b> the supposed disproof you mention regarding Noah's ark is not applicable, because the Bible uses the word "kinds," not "species," and there are far fewer kinds, than species. The word "species" had not been invented yet, and Moses didn't have Darwin to consult. If you were to compare the word "kind" to a word in modern science, it would be closer to "family." When you do the math with kinds, the ark would easily have fit them, including the dinosaurs.<href="http://www.icr.org/pubs/btg-b/btg-039b.htm">Here's more on the subject,</a> if you are interested.
In my opinion, there were probably only around 100 dinosaurs onboard the Ark No, no, no. Dinosaurs actually never lived. The Devil only buried their bones to test our faith. I wish these creationists could keep their story straight.
As regards to proof of Noah's ark etc. who cares? A minister once told me, that trying to figure out the age of the earth, or the how that kind of stuff isn't what the bible is about. It's not a history book. Science has proven that the earth is millions of years old, why argue? He also pointed out that trying to tell when the world's going to end isn't important, because the bible isn't supposed to be a fortune teller. The bible is a guide for the spirit, and what's important is that guidance and the messages one gets from the bible. The message of Noah's ark is far more important than if he could have had dinosaurs etc on board. That's just my 2 cents, or rather the 2 cents of a Presbyterian Minister who's sermon stuck with me for many years.
Maybe it's because I'm Presbyterian, but I agree wholeheartedly! The Bible is not a science text book...not even close. I'm always disturbed when it's treated as such by Christians and non-Christians, alike.
And I have to disagree with both of you. It should be considered a history and science book as well as a spiritual guidebook. Any lie or fallacy within the Bible casts serious validity questions on the book as a whole. Just look around www.icr.org at the science and history references being discussed, as well as "common" scientific findings and interpretations being disputed.
You may be misunderstanding me. it doesn't have to be a lie or a fallacy. i just don't think the Bible was written for the purpose of scientifically making explanations of the cosmos and the natural world. it's not an instruction book on quantum physics...it's a book for spiritual guidance. the creation story is, in my mind, divinely inspired...but we must also remember it's told through the eyes, and ultimately the pen, of a man some 3500 years ago, or so. perhaps God would reveal the creation in a different way if he were talking to modern man who could understand the concept of the atom or biology or the like. I don't think it makes it a lie or a fallacy. It just is what it is. And I don't think that detracts from the Bible at all. Rather, I think it adds to its validity.
Dude!!! That whole Noah's ark story at that site is a crock of BS. I will highlight the impossibilities that the author posits: I then figured out how many animals were on the Ark, arriving at approximately 16,000. Since animals vary so much in size, a numerical figure itself is not too informative. Therefore, the 16,000 animals were assigned into body-weight categories. As a result, there were eight logarithmic categories spanning the hummingbird (a few grams each) and the largest dinosaur (nearly 100 tons when adult). It turns out that simple labor-saving techniques could have enabled eight people to care for 16,000 animals assuming the availability of only rustic tools, along with a 10-hour day, 6-day week, with time to spare. I found that approximately 12 metric tons of excreta would have been produced daily by all the Ark animals. By studying agricultural literature and the various means of dealing with large volumes of animal waste, I was able to show that it was easily possible for eight people to deal with this much excreta. recent studies in conservation biology show that small numbers of founders do have most of the genetic potential of the parent population. Furthermore, the inbreeding inherent in the initially small populations need not have posed any problem.
I seriously doubt it would have fit them all because there a thousands of families as well as species. You also must figure in cargo, waste, etc.
MadMax: I'll let an article on that site be a reply THE BIBLE IS A TEXTBOOK OF SCIENCE by Henry M. Morris NoWorries: You should probably reply to the authors of that website about your findings. Contact ICR.org They'll probably ask why your list is impossible, or even point you to other articles on the site.
"It is obvious, of course, that the Bible is not a scientific textbook in the sense of giving detailed technical descriptions and mathematical formulations of natural phenomena. But this is not adequate reason for questioning the objective accuracy of those numerous portions of Scripture which do deal with natural phenomena and historical events. " gootan -- this was in the article you posted...i agree with it entirely. but as for the story of noah...i find that accepting that story as true or not does little to impair my relationship with Christ. i don't need to believe that it was exactly two animals of EVERY kind of the world...my relationship with God and His grace persists, whether that story is 100% accurate or not. I do not feel that way about the Gospels...meant to be eyewitness accounts of Jesus by contemporaries. The purpose of the books are very different. Jesus spoke in parables all the time...I'm not sure that God didn't do the same through the Old Testament. Clearly there are historical parts...and I think there is truth to EVERY one of those stories. But I don't need to believe Jonah was actually inside the whale to arrive at the same spiritual truth...that you can't hide from God..that God's will prevails....that if you hear Him calling, you best listen!
Funny how its Christ's church and he would forgive and never throw anybody away, yet his church would.
You sure about that? Acts 5:1-11 Max- I get you. But look at the perspective of the unbeliever. Some people will not consider the Gospel without scientific explanations. We are called out to deliver the Good News to everyone. That includes getting past their mental "strongholds". Some people will not trust the Bible unless it is proven to be trustworthy. Science and history are two of many ways to that end.
you're exactly right...i totally agree. i go to a church where there are skeptics, particularly spouses dragged along. many are scientists out on the west side of town working for oil companies...i've had these discussions a ton of times. i totally agree with your perspective.
