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Behavior and prejudice

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by WildSweet&Cool, Oct 11, 2007.

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  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    this is one thing conservatives are sooooooooooo right on and its a shame. have a difference of opinion with a liberal and you have a problem, are you're secretly trying to deal with your own issues, or blah blah blah. geez
     
  2. DaDakota

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    Thinking of the kids? Is it better for them to bounce around from Orphanage to orphanage or foster home to foster home, or be raised by two loving adults?

    I choose the latter....

    The kids could care less, it is the parents problem not the kids.

    DD
     
  3. thegary

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    i am an ******* but not because i'm not open-minded. i hate bigotry and intolerance, i love freedom.
     
  4. Master Baiter

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    You have really become ornery lately. I know we don't usually have similar ideas but you didn't seem to be nearly so pissy. I hope everything is cool with you.
     
  5. pgabriel

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    this is you

     
  6. pgabriel

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    you're never onery :rolleyes: i have never seen you mock a post, call some a name or anything. you're an angel
     
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    A child's welfare comes first. I think so long as there is no proof that being raised by a gay couple results in some negative impact on the child, than adoption should be ok. I haven't seen anything to demonstrate negative impact on children from having homosexual parents.

    All I can say if I had a kid and there was another adopted kid with gay parents, I'd let my kid go to the b-day party. Kids have an amazing ability to accept things, understand, and have tolerance. And I'd want my kid to be exposed to the diversity of humanity - it's a great experience. Just like traveling to another place and seeing something new.

    And if such a kid asked me why does timmy have two dads? I'd just say that some kids have two dads, and some have too moms. And if my kids asked me how a baby is made. I'd tell them, it's and egg from a woman fertilized by the sperm from a man. Or I'd make up something completely silly, like babies come from outer space - just like superman. Guess it depends on the mood i was in.

    But peopel have a right to raise thier kids the way they want. But I'd say, show your kid the world, because that's part of the wonder of being a kid.
     
  8. pgabriel

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    exactly
     
  9. pgabriel

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    i agree, everyone is saying kids are resiliant, blah blah blah, the fact is we don't know, and i would like to be sure first.
     
  10. Master Baiter

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    I've always been like that as it's just my personality. You just seem different as of late, hence the post. I seriously wasn't being a jerk about it and I'm sorry if I offended you.
     
  11. pgabriel

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    no dude, i'm as onery as ever. i really try not to be onery, what got me going in this thread is the bigot accusations. i try to explain my side that my concern isn't really the welfare of gays, its kids, and people still accuse me of having issues. because they don't want to debate the real issue imo.
     
  12. thegary

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    so you think we should outlaw gay couples adopting babies until we are sure?
     
  13. pgabriel

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    again, how am i infringing on gay people's freedoms. this has been addressed. there is no right to be able to adopt. if gay people really want kids, there are other ways to go about it.

    but if setting up the straw man makes it easier because you can't debate the real issue, have it.
     
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    The first one's mine, not the second. Not that I don't agree with it, but it's not mine. I still never suggested using children in order to advance gay rights. That's a made up thing and you're the one that made it up. It's also a position one could only take if they believed adoptions by loving gay families were in any way bad for kids, which I clearly do not.
     
  15. pgabriel

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    i think it should be studied, yes.
     
  16. Batman Jones

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    Get on the record here so we know what we're talking about.

    Is it true or not true that you oppose gay people adopting?

    If it is true, is that purely because you believe they will be mocked in school or are there other reasons as well? You insinuated before that there was some crazy long list of issues associated with gay adoption, but you declined to say what they were even though at least one person asked.

    I'm sorry you felt I called you a bigot. I don't think you are one, but I do think you're uncomfortable with homosexuality and I think further that you project that onto the kids you imagine will do the harassing.
     
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    Queer
     
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    How do you suggest that might happen? And what criteria would you like the studies to consider? Like, what are the potential problems?
     
  19. pgabriel

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    my bad for the misquoting, batman and master baiter, whom i quoted
     
  20. ico4498

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    let the kid eat cake. if your daughter is as unaware of sexuality as you think, her only questions will be was it good cake and ice cream or not?

    blocking her interaction will almost certainly raise more questions.

    on the tangential question of gays adopting ... loving parents are the best defense against the certain challenges of life, ie being teased. the benefits of caring parents far outweigh the certainty of listening to some jerk spout off about whats wrong with your life.
     

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