Masterasia, this is off the top of my head so if i messed up don't go find a link just to prove me wrong. First champ Hakeem Thorpe Horry Max Kenny Cassell Herrara Bullard Brooks Elie Second Champ Hakeem Chucky Brown(shutted down Chukster in the playoffs one game) Horry Da Glide Cassell Kenny Ed Rec Bullard Elie Charles Jones(personal favorite for that reverse against the suns i think) The year after next was pretty much the same team with the addition of Mark Bryant, got beat by the sonics even after Sam I am hit that 3 in game 4 to force OT still swept which lead to the trade for Chuck. team Hakeem Chuck Elie Clyde Maloney Willis Pete Chilicut ( chilly pete Sam Mack (fifty point games once in a while) Eddie Jones (game winning 3) lost to Jazz in west finals after clyde we got the idiot whom i shall not name, i think this was also the year Elie left cuz he thinks we were unloyal team Hakeem Chuck Idiot Dickerson Cat Bullard Willis Antoine Carr (think that's the year we got him) Sam Mack Maloney after that season, Idiot made everything go to hell even while we were trying to get the Franchise team Hakeem Chuck (injured most of season and wasn't a factor) Walt Shandon Franchise Carlos Rogers Cat KT the next season Chuck retired, we got MoT and Jason Collier I think, and Cat starting to really emerge and we almost made playoffs. Last Year, load of injuries, the team was horrible, couldn't get Marc Jackson, traded Shandon for Glen and we tanked whole season to get....... Ming and the rest is History. I've been a Rox fans since the first Champ year in fifth grade, I've enjoyed every single game, snipits i can even after i went to college and couldn't watch most of the games. I used to listen to Rox on a bad radio when i didn't have cable. To me that's a true fan. In my mind only a fan whose been with a team through the good and bad can know a team will enough to bash it, but it's just my opionin and you don't have to respect it.
It wasnt' intentional at first but when we realized we can't make the playoffs.......Look at some of the teams we floored at the end of that season, remember our team on the floor during fan appreciation night last year? enough said.
I remember the last 4 losses and I remember Fan Appreciation Loss. I also remember that in 3 of the last 4 losses we didnt have Steve, Cuttino or Cato and that in the other loss, we lost by only 1 point to a playoff team. So this is tanking?
you know, people will only post if they have something really positive or something really negative to say, and then you have idiots who just post to get a rise out of others. occasionally there are some with meaning but its rarely ever in the middle. ex: after a dumb loss you'll see posts that say that we suck and trade player X, after a win people will say we can go win a championship this year and how damn good player X is. point is, you cant help it, people will be miffed about a loss let alone two (i know i was) and out american culture demands immediate gratification, not complacency.
Jebus, codell, why be so freaking picky with a small part of my post while ignoring the actual point of the post But just for the sake of arguing, do honestly think we weren't tanking the second half of the season, that we would rest so many players because of small injuries if we were in the playoff hunt? When we realized we couldn't make it, we didn't try the fullest to get every win and to me that's tanking.
sitting down your hurt star players to prevent furthur injury is not tanking. it's being smart. you don't jeopardize your future on meaningless games. the players that played certainly gave it their all but were undermanned. I don't think for a second that management sat down and said lose these games and maybe we can get that tall chinese guy.
I read your post and never understoond what your point was. You basically recaped our roster moves over the years and told us of your background as a Rocket fan. Nothing to agree or disagree with there except for the part about tanking the season last year and thats what Im debating with you. No need to get upset. I honest do not feel we were tanking. You outta go read some of the history and newspaper articles about our 1982-1983 season. We did indeed tank that year so to speak. If you remembered anything about that season, youd realize the difference between that season and last season, where our best player was out for a good chunk of the season and played hurt in the other games. Also, they werent resting players. Those players were hurt. Why force them on the court and risk further injury and possibly set yourself back for the following season? Last, I dont call it tanking at all. I call it human nature. Did our players play all out without Francis and Mobley on the court? Maybe, maybe not. Actually, come to think of it, those guys that were left probably played as hard as they could as some of the were scrubs all season and were auditioning for jobs. You need to be clear on what tanking is. Tanking is the organization, as a whole, including coaches and players, intentionally trying to lose games. Im sorry, but this just wasnt the case last season.
It is really no big deal losing two games early in the season. I dont speak for others,which I find many posters in the bbs like to do. what I am upset about is the way Rox play the ball. If that is overreacting, so be it.
Codell, my point in the post is that unless you've been a true hearted Rocket fan for the past few years, stop this insane amount of neagivity on this board, it's really bring the board down atleast for me when bandwagoners just comes in and complain, not to say all people who complain are bandwagoners but most bandwagoners are complainers. When we first won the draft, I was elated, I mean I've been following Ming for a while now up to that point and wish (though i thought it was near impossible) for him to be a ROX, when that I actually happened I was sooooo happy. As a Chinese I feel great to have a Chinese Athlete as a role model, when he came to Houston i was even happier since I don't have to root against him when he plays the Rox since he plays for the Rox. But then, especially on this board, I begin to see a division amongst the fans that really just is driving me insane and I really really want it to stop. As for the tanking argument, I think it's a difference of opionion, maybe I used the wrong word there, but you know what, I really don't care, I just want all the complainiing to stop.
There it goes again," I am Chinese, but I am rocket fan first", Gee, what a big heart you have. Cut it, will you.
The only thing I will add is, to be fair to EVERYONE, some of its complaining and some of its constructive critisizm. Die-hard fans are still going to complain/constructively critisize because they love the game and are passionate about them.
Back to the original topic... People are overreacting because we have seen what this team is capable of in beating the Kings and the Spurs. For the Rockets to reach that level we so want them to they have to beat not only the elite teams like the Kings and Spurs but the teams that are not elite like the Grizzlies and the Clippers.
The 92-93 Rockets lost 5 in a row to go 14-16 then finished 41-11 to go 55-27. I'm not sure if we could win that many but if we start playing smart, you never know. This team is still very young. Most of the players on championship teams were veterans in their late 20's and early 30s. I think eventually these players will learn how to play the game right, but When is the question.
No, there is a significant difference...everyone else waits until AFTER the game to start a thread about how much the Rockets suck... Clutch needs to make an exception to posting threads during games. The Rockets usually seemed to pull out a victory when you came out bashing them at halftime...
People have always overreacted on this board. It's the way things have been since I registered back in 1998 with another user name. Unfortuantely, it seems to get more severe with every passing game. I find most threads completely immature and useless. I have stayed because I love the Rockets. I have stayed because of the amazing job Clutch and his crew do. I can't miss a scoop from the likes of Popeye and Doc Rocket. I love it when people actually talk about the X's and O's, breaking down the Rockets' plays. It's really a pity that there aren't more intelligent discussions. People flip flop their opinions of players and the staff after just about every game and don't back up their opinions strongly. It's a shame.
To answer the original question: HELL YES!! I'm not disappointed that the Rocks lost to the Grizz & Clips, those are 2 talented teams that the Rocks don't match up well with, especially at F. But I am disappointed in HOW they lost. 2 straight games in which the Rocks were simply outplayed. The Clipper game was particularly disappointing, Brand looked like a grown man playing against a bunch of kids, and that includes Yao Ming as well. Here's to hoping that ALL of the Rockets get their heads out of their collective rectums and come to play tonight.
