AP voters suck.....

We beat Kansas State, yet we are behind them in the polls? It should be OU, Texas then KSU. Maybe even putting Texas above OU. How did they jump?

 

Not one team was jumped. OU and ND fell, thats it. While I agree that it should be OU-UT-KSU with WSU falling somewhere inbetween there, KSU was ahead of UT the previous week, so you really can't expect a jump of them.

 

does it even matter anymore? if we're not BCS bound, I have no qualms.

Bring on the Cotton Bowl.

 

We should be ahead of Kstate and WSU. OU is debatable, but that performance Saturday was embarassing, and not like our loss to Tech either. However, that is the only decent thing about the poll.

Pollsters have targeted us all year, its fairly obvious, you can say how? We'll let's remember Captain Kirk picking us to lose both in Lincoln and Manhattan, Fowler putting an inferior WSU team over us in the poll when OU first lost etc. And we became the 2nd best one loss team for no reason, as we had done our job.

I know some of you will say you only dropped to 11th after losing to Tech, but this year in college football they had no option of going lower, because there is a big gap between very good teams and the rest of the poll.

I get the feeling the pollsters had been licking their chops all year to see us lose. And CFB needs a playoff, I don't care how dramatic making every team win out is, some conferences have it a lot easier than others, see Miami's schedule compared to Texas, yes the Canes didnt expect Tenn, Fla, and FSU to suck this yr, but still. The big 12 has two jokes of teams in KU/BU but the rest are very worthy opponents, and it makes you bring it every week.

Make a 8 or 16 team playoff, using the current ranking method, seed the teams and let them duke it out. You can add it major conf tie in's if you wish, as well, except no ACC please.

I am not saying we don't deserve our fate, I am saying if you are going to rank us ahead of one same loss team one week and the next we win convincingly, we should not get moved down. And as far as h2h, they can't have their cake and eat it too, meaning if you want to rank a two loss OU over a two loss UT because of h2h, you better not rank a 2 loss KSU over us considering we beat them in Manhattan.

 

Exactly.

What does it matter if UT is 8 or 9? It's possible for USC to be #4 in the Final BCS, no? If Georgia loses(which very well could happen) UT has NO shot. If they win, they have what, a 5 percent chance?

Coaches also have ND at #13 while the AP has them at #11. ND gets trashed by USC by 30 and only drop 4 spots? Are you kidding me?
While I agree that they're not #13, they did get trashed by a pretty darn good team....

 

If Georgia loses, UT has the same shot. Texas is more nationally known than Georgia and travels better. Georgia's not in the BCS if they lose... sorry.

And the shot is well, well over 5%. If UCLA beats Washington State, USC goes to the Rose, and the Orange gets an at-large. Here's what they had to say about ND:

WPLG-TV News is reporting that the Orange Bowl Committee was not impressed at all with Notre Dame's performance last night and is exploring "Other Options" to fill the at-large berth.

If you think they'd choose Georgia or Kansas State over UT, you're dreaming.

 

If Miami loses, and USC isn't in the top 4, UT has a pretty good shot at the Sugar, from what I understand. The Sugar looooves UT.

And it does matter. If not because of this year, for next year.

I don't care which approach you take... but you can't go head-to-head in your ranking preferences for one team, and not another (well, you can, but it's not fair)

mduke:

With regards to ND, it isn't just that they lost to a good team. It's that their showing was so utterly abysmal that it became readily apparent that their offense isn't even below average. It's execrable. There's no way that offense can beat an elite football team. No matter which team you match against them in the BCS... they'll get hammered. Even if Texas doesn't make it, I prefer to see good New Years match-ups. Watching another of the OSU-ND debacle type-games doesn't interest me.

Even if their defense was as good as some thought, it wouldn't matter with an offense that bad. But their defense isn't that good - they just played their first truly good QB of the year, and he murdered them. Their ain't no mediocre QB (except Rix) in the BCS.

Could you imagine what, say, Jason Gesser would do to that defense?

Against any BCS team except FSU, ND would have difficulty coming w/in 30.

 

USC is in the top 4, haven. Early BCS projections have them over a full point in front of Iowa.

Texas may be in the BCS regardless, but it would look especially good if Washington State lost. That way, USC would go to the Rose as the Pac 10 champion to play Iowa, and the Orange would have an at-large spot for Texas or Kansas State (they've indicated they don't want ND). They'd take Texas.

However, even if Washington State wins, the Orange still has the first choice of at-large teams. The Rose wants Iowa, but if we can sell the Orange Bowl on Texas during this week, it doesn't matter what the Rose wants-- the Orange has the first choice.

 

Damn, poor Iowa. I feel more sorry for them than Texas.

Poor guys went undefeated in the Big 10, and still won't get an automatic BCS bid. Sure, they'll probably get one. But there's something seriously wrong that doesn't guarantee a bid to a team like that.

I'm not in favor of the playoffs. But I'm starting to think that perhaps only the top 8 teams should be eligible, screw the conference tie-ins. No way FSU should be in the BCS this year.

 

I'm sure. Most people regarded UT as out of the BCS equation after the Tech loss, and put KSU on the very outside because they were playing so well. Realistically, they don't have a shot.

Texas would have MUCH greater television ratings, travel just as well, and they won head to head. KSU has no chance.

 

Well, maybe the Big 10 should consider having a conference championship game.

 

Cat: NM. just read the part about WSU losing.....I was saying that based on if they beat UCLA.

 

USC is guaranteed a BCS spot anyway; they will be number four on Monday. The point is, if UCLA beats Washington St. (without Gesser), USC will be the Pac 10 champion and it opens up another at-large.

Also, it's not a lock Iowa goes to the Rose Bowl. The at-large teams are treated like a draft, and the Orange Bowl has the first pick. Even if Washington State wins, if Texas can convince the Orange Bowl to select them, the Orange Bowl would have precedence over the Rose.

It's unlikely for that scenario to happen, considering the bowls like to "share" with each other. But if Texas can sell the Orange Bowl enough this week, it can happen.

It's probably dependent on the WSU game, though.

 

Yeah, I re-read your post and edited mine before you replied

And about Iowa: Who cares what bowl it is, they will be in a BCS bowl Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go watch the Bob Stoops show

 

On paper its not a lock, in reality, it is.

 

What reality is this?

Please show me one quote where the Orange Bowl says they will go out of their way to not pick an at-large team just so the Rose Bowl can have Iowa.

 

I'm sure the Orange Bowl REALLY wants the Iowa Hawkeyes when they could have USC or Texas.....