Now, if the Rockets were able to acquire Iggy and still have the pieces to get a star, that would great. The only problem by getting Iggy first is limiting the bargaining pieces as well as the star selection. (Example: Taking Iggy for our SF, no sense in going after Carmelo unless we move Martin in the trade and slide Andre down.) I rather have a lineup of Martin + Iggy + star. Than Iggy + star. Though, this scenario is as optimistic as they come. I won't hold my breath for it to happen.
Wait... this guy? <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/lDzRvZcFn48?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/lDzRvZcFn48?fs=1&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object> For people who keep on telling me how useless stats are, maybe it is because you guys are looking at the wrong stats. Putting up 20 points on a terrible team is nothing special. That video right there... now THAT is special. Very special. You know who else is a good player you would like? Ricky Davis. Where is he nowadays... Kevin Martin was also a scorer on a bad team. That is not why the Rockets were interested in him. It was the manner in which he scored that Morey was after. 45%FG 40%3PT 90%FT and a 60+ TS%. All while shooting close to 10 FT a game. That is a rare combination in NBA HISTORY. For this season he is scoring 24 PPG on 63TS%. I wonder if that is contributing at all to one of the most potent offenses in the league.
Surely you can come up with better arguments than, "Ricky Davis did this, and look how good Ricky Davis turned out to be!" 20 points.. 13 assist.. from your PF.. thanks for helping our argument!
One thing about it, Lowry is from Philly. There's no doubt in my mind, he would approve a trade there. However, I still don't think Lowry is the target to send out in a trade with Philly.
Exactly. Now, which player(s) would be involved in such a deal, that's the tough one. Brooks would be more effective next to a playmaking 2 or 3, given that he is, in effect, more of a 2 himself. And if that 2 or 3 plays great defense as well? Perfect. So I always thought that putting him next to an Iggy or a Stephen Jackson would make sense. But you could also pair Brooks with Evan Turner, another playmaking 2 who can score and maybe defend (he's still new, time will tell) but not necessarily shoot a high percentage. I'd rather have Lowry's steady hand than Aaron's offense. Scorers we have. We need D in the worst way.
Man, that was pathetic. Was this guy owed something like a million dollar bonus for getting a triple double?
I'm thinking more along the lines of Turner as the 3, Holiday as the 1/2, and Brooks as the 2/1. That is to say, Turner plays SF defensively and the point offensively. Holiday and Brooks are the wings offensively, with Holiday guarding shooting guards and Brooks guarding point guards or actually hiding Brooks on the weakest offensive link, and letting Turner and Holiday take the two best offensive perimeter options. Brooks is the most likely to be traded.
Why in the world would Philly want Lowry, considering they already have their PG of the future locked up AND their own version of Aaron Brooks coming off the bench? Your blind love of AB, and in turn criticism -> hate of Lowry has produced a rash of posts devoid of any logical basis. Like when you say he plays bad defense...
He doesn't hate Lowry. he likes AB better. He does overvalue AB. But that's an argument that can't be won.
True, I see it 100% the opposite that folks way overvalue Lowry, who in my opinion is just a solid energy guy off the bench, effective in doses but very exploitable over larger minutes. And the reason I think Ish might make Lowry expendable, is that they have very close skillsets, and are a contrast to AB. You always want a contrast, so it makes your team more flexible....AB is our only creator late in games, he is the only one on the team capable of creating a good shot for himself or a teamate. So, you keep him and decide whom to keep out of Lowry and Ish......Lowry is better, for now...but Ish is quicker, and is a much better passer.....and more importantly is much cheaper......so it could mean Lowry is a goner....eventually....my guess...this upcoming summer. DD
Let's not make this a Lowry vs. Brooks thread, we have plenty of those. Most of the stuff we will just have to agree to disagree. But one thing I'd say is that Ish makes nobody expendable. I love the kid, and think he was a great pickup. But let's be real. He is an undrafted rookie. Oh, and he was undrafted. AND a rookie.
My guess is Brooks is gone by the trade deadline and if there is a significant upgrade available this summer, Lowry could be gone too then. If they are both still here this summer, I look for Brooks to be S&T'd unless moving Lowry constitutes bringing in Paul, or possibly Rubio. If Ish continues to develop and can learn more on the defensive end, and can improve his shooting just a little bit more to where he can hit midrange, he could turn into something. But right now, he is a rookie, he doesn't make either guy expendable, but he is more likely to make Brooks expendable, unless we make a significant trade that improves our D and we can afford the luxury of having a no D point guard out there. Using Brooks in some sort of move for Iggy or Melo makes much more sense as both of those guys give you varying degrees of offense and defense.
True, but both Kyle and AB were low first round picks, which have a very low success rate in the league anyway, and both are flawed players... The one consistent though is that Morey jettisons higher priced talent for cheaper talent that has the same impact. Artest to Ariza to Lee.....as an example. This may spell doom for Kyle....and he wants to start....so how long will he be happy carrying AB's clipboard? DD
True. If Shakur plays well in Rio (he's known for his defense).....I can see Lowry being moved. By the way, Conroy just signed over in China.
