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Action Vs. Motion

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by what, Mar 7, 2004.

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    Rather than speak solely in terms of God and Evolution, I would like to shift the emphasis to speak in terms of Action and Motion, for each of those two terms are representative anedotes: they sum up or are the most compete representation of the said "act." I put act in quotations because of the pun, for motion, it is said, happens outside of a willful act. I just didn't know a better term to use. At any rate, Evolution has thrived on the fact that it can be seen, whereas creation or God's willful act cannot and thus cannot be proved. Looming in this statement is another principle, occamite's razor, which is a way to treat a given in terms of itself. Why pray that gravity be gravity tomorrow when gravity will be itself tomorrow regardless of prayer. Gravity because it does exsist, can be seen and tested, needs no further explaination or God term to make itself complete. However, the question remains how is gravity gravity, how did it come to be itself? The answer, for evolutionist it seems, is the big bang, for even evolutionist understand that somthing had to affect something else for evoltion to happen, the idea of inertia. This brings me to my point (and I do have one). The idea of action or of the act. Because when one speaks of the act of creation as being unproveable, what they are really saying is they cannot believe something could come from nothing. There must be something for something else to exist. It is the idea of the magicain. No one believes that a person could disappear because for that to happen the laws of such and such would be violated. But the problem is that evolution itself depended upon an action, the big bang, and the big bang itself depends on an act. The materials for a phonogragh may have exsisted, but until edison created it no one listened to records. And so it is with the big bang. What caused it? And to answer that question you must come to the hard truth that something with a motive caused it, because acts are in fact motivated by something. And then you may realise that motivation is associated with people, and when you realise that then you quickly turn to a higher being.
     

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