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2025 Baseball Season

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by marks0223, Mar 18, 2025.

  1. Buck Turgidson

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    They haven't exactly done a great job in Ballmer
     
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    aside from pitching. They’ve done well developing position players no?
     
  3. Tomstro

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    They tried hard to win in the beginning. Then I Don’t know wtf happened. Mussina leaving was a problem.
     
  4. Tomstro

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    They have some can’t miss guys like gunnar and holliday and Adley. Westburg too. The other hitting prospects haven’t done too much of note. Grayson and Bradish on the shelf hurts the pitching of course

    Cowser was good last year too
     
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  5. Buck Turgidson

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    Have they?
     
  6. Amshirvani

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    if you consider Gunnar, Adley, westburg, Holliday to be on par with our top hitting prospects, then no. No they haven’t.
     
  7. Buck Turgidson

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    Their collective position player WAR is Zero.
     
  8. Amshirvani

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    In that case you’re right, they’ve all been complete busts
     
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  9. Buck Turgidson

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    I'm a bit shocked they've been this bad so far.

    Their pitching staff is a complete cluster****.
     
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  10. Amshirvani

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    You’d think Elias would have learned that under Lunhow, not to under estimate importance of pitching
     
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    The Orioles have a lot of injuries on their pitching staff. It’s not quite fair to say that Elias ignored pitching.

    Rodriguez
    Bradish
    Eflin

    That was supposed to be their top 3. All are injured.

    He still should’ve signed probably at least one of crochet and cease but injuries are the bigger issue at this point. Burnes was not going back to Baltimore so I do not blame Elias for losing him to FA.

    Another issue is that nobody on the team is hitting yet. Adley has been in a slump since last july. Holliday looks to be coming out of his slump now. Gunnar needs to step it up too.

    Ex astro McDermott, who we traded to them for mancini, looks to be a bit of a bust so far.
     
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    Apparently their bullpen is bad and he was 1 of, if not best relief pitcher. Is there a trade to be made with us? Or is pitching too important that Astros shouldn't trade 1 of their relief pitchers?
     
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    Astros gotta trade something. They have no position players worth enough to get anything of consequence.
     
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    with pirates and orioles somewhat in turmoil, i'd like the astros to go after paul skenes (ala gerrit cole 2.0. i doubt it's possible tho) and some of the orioles front office staff members to bring them back to houston.
     
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    Crane has always been the one jonesing for pitching…. Ever since they lucked into JV at the deadline. Crane will pay a premium for starters, relievers and closers. That’s where he splurges.

    The importance of reliable starting pitching has also increased since 2019 as the “go max effort” philosophy of most teams has simply resulted in developing starters that will eventually get injured after a certain period of time.

    Which is why you can’t simply take for granted the starters that still are able to pitch every 4th day for years and their arms don’t fall off (ahem Framber).
     
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    Paul Skenes has allowed 3 or fewer ER in 9 of his 10 starts, but the Pirates have scored 21 runs and are 3-6
     
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    That's not how you tank.
     
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    The Astros don't have the talent to trade for Skenes.
     
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