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2013 MLB Draft

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by jim1961, Jul 2, 2012.

  1. xcrunner51

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    The Miami Sun Sentinel is reporting that #9 pick Andrew Heaney may not sign either. If Appel, Gausman, and Heaney (all top 10 picks) don't sign, that's a bad development for the new CBA.
     
  2. juicystream

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    I like it. Lets see them get more next year.
     
  3. tellitlikeitis

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    Never mind...

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search/%2523Marlins">#Marlins</a>, 1st-rder Andrew Heaney have agreed on $2.6 million. <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%2523OklahomaState">#OklahomaState</a> LHP was most polished arm in <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%2523mlbdraft">#mlbdraft</a>.</p>&mdash; Jim Callis (@jimcallisBA) <a href="https://twitter.com/jimcallisBA/status/223787115320836096" data-datetime="2012-07-13T14:33:00+00:00">July 13, 2012</a></blockquote>
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  4. bigtexxx

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    I've seen Wilson play in 5 or 6 games, and I'm not a big fan. A lot of swing and misses. He LOOKS physically imposing, though.
     
  5. juicystream

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    The number of early signings is way up. Only 3 first rounders haven't agreed to a contract, and all 3 were potential #1 picks who fell in the draft (Giolito for his injury, Appel and Gausman).
     
  6. xcrunner51

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    Yea. I didn't mean to imply the new CBA failed overall. It's done a bang up job of getting early signings. Given that they've signed early AND the deadline is a month earlier, draftees can get almost two extra months of playing time in this season. Most of the changes were very team friendly.

    But it's affected the leverage of different tiers of prospects very unevenly.

    1st tier prospects (top ten pick): HUGE drop in leverage
    2nd tier prospects: less but not by much
    HS prospects: giant drop in leverage.

    The new CBA did its job: collectively everyone has less leverage than before. That and a soft cap has mean signing bonuses are down almost $30 million total this year. Appel is over a barrel in my opinion. Heaney as a lower prospect had much less leverage. High school players Virant who were drafted 10th round and later have pretty much no chance at signing.

    The days of the late first rounder (Zach Lee) or second rounder (Josh Bell) getting $5m contracts is over.
     
  7. rezdawg

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    Appel returning to Stanford.

    #1 pick for the Astros next season. :grin:
     
  8. jim1961

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    Astros building up their worst record buffer. After today's loss a full 1.5 game lead at 33-56.

    Having only won 1 of their last 10, and every other club in the majors winning at least 3 of their last 10, Stros separating themselves from the pack in a hurry.

    Our 4 game losing streak is only eclipsed by the Twins 5 game one.
     
  9. tellitlikeitis

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    CBL Preview

    How does it work? Jonathan Mayo has the answer.


    Competitive Balance Lottery results:

    Round A (approx. picks 32-37)

    1. Royals

    2. Pirates

    3. Diamondbacks

    4. Orioles

    5. Reds

    6. Marlins



    Round B (approx. picks 70-75)

    1. Padres

    2. Indians

    3. Rockies

    4. A’s

    5. Brewers

    6. Tigers


    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Anyone else having hard time figuring MLB's new competitive-balance lottery? Tigers &amp; Marlins (both over $100M) got picks but Rays got none?</p>&mdash; Jayson Stark (@jaysonst) <a href="https://twitter.com/jaysonst/status/225678611825442816" data-datetime="2012-07-18T19:49:08+00:00">July 18, 2012</a></blockquote>
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  10. xcrunner51

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    What an unnecessary addition to the CBA.
     
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    well, at least we don't have to worry about not picking #1 next year :)
     
  12. juicystream

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    At least stupid the way it is done. Of course, if they had salary caps and/or player maximums that would actually make everything fair, but players will never agree to it.
     
  13. xcrunner51

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    Exactly. One of the both great and terrible things about MLB is the lack of salary cap. It adds a huge measure of drama between the haves and have-nots. Tossing the small-market teams an extra pick is basically admitting there's a problem while not legitimately addressing it.

    *Sidenote: I never understood why player/owner revenue split has never been an issue in baseball like any of the other 3 major sports.
     
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    It looks like we can get both Correa and Appel. I wonder what Appel's magic number is? 6M? 6.5?
     
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    That was probably his number for this past year, but I have to believe it's lower now. Only the top 3-4 picks have the ability to offer that amount without crippling the rest of the draft. I think he signs even if he falls again.
     
  16. juicystream

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    Offer him $5 mill, if he isn't interested, pass. Of course plenty of time for someone to emerge.
     
  17. tellitlikeitis

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    This. Remember when I was touting Nick Williams as being the #1 pick in August? I'll come back in February/March.

    If Appel wants to put that Stanford education to good use early, then that's his choice too.
     
  18. No Worries

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    If there is no standout number one pick in the 2013 draft, Appel will not have leverage.

    If Appel is *the* standout number one pick, he will get his money and then some.
     
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    Cardinals had +$200M in revenue and were eligible for the lottery. FYB.
     
  20. DoitDickau

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    Baseball America just put out a top 50 2013 draft list. Appel is at #1 followed by two college pitchers:Stanek rhp from Arkansas and Maneae, a lhp who has broken out this summer, from Indiana state. Austin meadows, a high outfielder, is the top hitter and prep player at #4, and Moran from unc is the top college bat at #5.
     

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