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2011 Conference Realignment

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by RocketManJosh, Sep 27, 2011.

  1. Major

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    This part is an outright lie:

    What about Texas A&M? Do you see a way that game can be saved?

    "Well, they're out of the conference and we're scheduled up for 10 years. So I think it's different."


    We're not scheduled out 10 years. Not even close. And if the conference expands back to 12, it will free up one additional game in each of those 10 years.
     
  2. LonghornFan

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    Charlie just mentioned that Mizz applied for membership to the SEC. Anyone have a link for this?
     
  3. rockbox

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    If the Big 12 stays at 10 teams, we would only have 3 non conference games during a 12 game season not including any bowl games. An aggie and a warmup/cupcake game would leave us with only one slot to book high profile OOC games. That leaves no flexibility at all to schedule schools like ND, Ohio State, Arkansas, and UCLA. Of course Texas should play ATM, but to continue the series is just unrealistic.
     
  4. MadMax

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    nothing...here's most recent tweets i can find:

    ChrisLevelChris Level
    Interesting RT @BlairKerkhoff SEC ADs discuss 13-team, not 14-team FB skeds for next year at meeting, according to www.al.com/sports

    ralphDrussoAPRalph D. Russo
    Since the 1992 expansion,SEC teams have played 19 regular-season game in Texas. Arkansas has played 8. MissSt 4. LSU 3. OleMiss/Vandy 2 each
     
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  5. RocketManJosh

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    I certainly understand and agree with this from the Texas perspective, especially given a 10 team Big 12. While Dodds is there, UT will not play A&M at all and it is not because of the reason you stated above. When Dodds is gone, if the Big 12 is still at 10, I'll bet you see A&M and UT play again, though A&M may just be in the rotation of some of those other schools you mentioned with a home and home every so often.
     
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    You just said it's not a "piece" it's just a Q and A. How in the world can it be a "propaganda piece" and not be a "piece". The reporter doesn't try to contextualize anything. There is no spin.

    I don't think you understand what propaganda means. It has never been used to describe a strait Q and A session.


    If Dodds said the OU game was not going to happen there would be flat out protests. I guarantee you that a huge majority of fans care about the OU rivalry more than A&M. In no way is the A&M game our biggest rivalry.

    It's not worth scheduling if Texas only has 3 non conference games. Aside from the 2 bad teams you schedule to warm up that would only leave 1 real game left. I think most UT fans would rather see the USC, Ohio State and Notre Dames of the world than A&M.

    I understand that a lot of A&M fans don't like UT fans. The reason UT fans don't like A&M is that a lot of us find what you guys do annoying. TU, t-shirt and t sippers are all dumb. It's not because they are negative. It's just because they are stupid. I must say that the saw em off shirts are awesome. Everything else just annoys a lot of UT fans. I would not mind avoiding that at all. The biggest reason not to lose the A&M game is to avoid annoying aggies. Again, don't have a problem with insulting the UT program. Just the way they do it is really annoying and dumb.


    http://www.mackbrown-texasfootball.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/fb-future-schedules.html
     
  7. Major

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    A&M and BYU are both on the schedule 2013 and 2014, so if BYU joins the conference to replace A&M, there's no work needed to keep that game.

    But for the other years, you're right: they have 3 non-conference games. A cupcake, an A&M, and a high-profile game would work just fine. The only way you can't fit A&M is if we need two cupcakes. But then I look at LSU and see them playing #3 Oregon and #16 West Virginia along with their SEC schedule and realize that Texas could do it if they wanted to.
     
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    So we may play ATM in 2013 and 2014, but after that, ATM needs to get in line with Arkansas, ND, Cal, UCLA, and USC. I don't want to see ATM every year, if it means, I have to lose out of any of these teams.
     
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    What are you talking about? That is the schedule for the next 10 years. Whoever the Big12 picks up will replace ATM on the schedule. There isn't a TBA until 2018, and we are playing Maryland and USC, that year so most likely that date is reserved for a cupcake team.
     
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    What? The first opening is in 2018. The only options are if BYU joins the Big 12 and those become conference games. As someone said, A&M games will be replaced by a new big 12 team.

    Texas only has 3 non conference games with the round robin 10 team big 12.
     
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    Ok you got me on semantics .. it's not a propaganda piece, but it is pure propaganda from Dodds. Does that make you feel better now?

    Did you even read what I posted (and you quoted)? In that quote I specifically said that most A&M fans understand the OU game is bigger to Texas. I also said that the A&M game is bigger than any of the other games on their schedule as far as a rivalry goes and if you deny that you are just lying to yourself.

    I also said in a later post that I understand why Texas doesn't want to play A&M every year if they only have 3 non-conf games. While I would like to see the game continue, our schedule will be just fine without Texas.

    You come across with the sterotypical arrogance that defines Longhorn fans making you deserving of the title of a T-Sip. Bravo! Oh and calling Aggies ... Aggy is awesome and super cool! Glad Texas fans are not so annoying and dumb.
     
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    Seriously. You don't understand what propaganda is. Like, you don't understand the term and are applying it in a way that does not make sense. He is saying what he thinks and his interpretation of what has gone down. He could be lying. According to you, every time someone talks in an interview about themselves or their organization, that is propaganda. That is such a loaded term. Don't throw it around if you don't under stand it.

    I didn't intentionally misspell Aggie. Guess that makes me annoying and dumb? Keep your t-sips, tu whatever. Go away. Go annoy the SEC teams and get stomped even worse than you do in the big 12. Go away.
     
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  14. Major

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    Yes, of the next 10 years, there are openings in:

    2018
    2019
    2020
    2021

    Add to that, 2013 and 2014 have an opening if BYU joins. Thus, in the next 10 years, there are 6 years where they could fit A&M into the schedule if they wanted to, and the statement: "Well, they're out of the conference and we're scheduled up for 10 years." is not true. It's not that complicated.

    If Texas doesn't want to play A&M, that's fine. But let's not pretend it's a scheduling impossibility. And given that LSU played two top-15 teams in its non-conference schedule plus the SEC schedule, let's not pretend adding A&M would be oh-so-difficult that no one would do it, and even more so if you believe A&M is doomed to mediocrity in the SEC.
     
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    Someone just got served!
     
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    why are we only looking at it from UT trying to schedule A&M? What about A&M trying to schedule UT? Oh yeah, they left the Big12 to not compete with UT.
     
  17. geeimsobored

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    I think A&M would be glad to schedule UT. UT is the one that has said no.

    I'm as big a UT homer as the rest of you guys but come on. We're the ones refusing to schedule them. Just admit it.
     
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    From the link there are no openings in 2019 or 2020. Are you looking at a different schedule than I am? Also, who knows if 2018 is up to date. They may have that spot filled up right now.

    http://www.mackbrown-texasfootball.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/fb-future-schedules.html
     
  19. Major

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    Becaues Texas is the one saying it would be impossible to fit them in. A&M has said they'd be happy to continue the series.

    They have one non-conference game in 2019 and 2020 (Notre Dame). Unless you think they plan to play a 10 game schedule those years, there are openings.
     
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    Maybe he has games signed but not announced, or not yet inked but verbally agreed upon - it is possible that DeLoss has better information than you on this point.
     

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