Easy, put TCU in the North. North: TCU, Iowa State (barf), Kansas, Kansas State, WVU, Louisville South: Oklahoma, Texas, Tech, Houston, OSU, Baylor
Problem is that the ESPN/ABC deal was for 12 teams and they agreed to maintain the same payout for 10 last year. They are not going to increase the payout if the Big12 goes back to 12 since that is what the original deal was for. That means less money for every current school. When the tier 1 deal comes up for renewal in 5 years, you may see them expand further. Problem for them is finding teams that add value to a TV deal.
There would be extra money from the conference title game however, though you are right it wouldn't make up for the extra division of revenues. You'd probably stabilize your conference though, plus you could potentially look to do the Big XII title game at Reliant on a consistent basis and generate some good revenue with that.
You're assuming they want a conference title game. It seems like they couldn't care less about an extra game.
Well that changes everything. LSU vs. Louisiana Tech LSU vs. ULL LSU vs. Louisiana Monroe LSU vs. Tulane LSU vs. Arkansas St. LSU vs. Southern Miss LSU vs. Arkansas LSU vs. Ole Miss LSU vs. Miss St. That appeals to no one outside Louisiana. It doesn't even appeal to LSU fans. You are trading national markets for markets you already have. You can talk about what the game should be. That there is an answer and this is what it is. But to say that it would make as much money as it does now (much less profits that the NCAA has never seen) is absurd. Why can't college football be about pitting great programs from across the country together. If you want to see texas teams play each other, that is what high school football is. You're right. They play 2 smaller teams a year. Then they go on to play teams that the whole country cares about for 8 weeks.
Exactly. Losing Colorado was actually addition by subtraction. No one watched big 12 football in Colorado. They got more money than they were valued at. Obviously that was not the case with Mizzou, A&M and Nebraska.
Ok then, if you like what is happening in college football, then I guess you are happy. I preferred college football more before all the old conferences started breaking up. And yes, I did enjoy watching Texas colleges play each other.
He's making extreme examples to try and obscure your point, but it is well received. Conferences are kind of a clusterf*** that could stand to be far more balanced and regional.
First you don't like that my example included a division 2 school. Fine I adjusted it. I literally followed his formula as best I could. All the schools around LSU. Is Louisiana an anomaly? You are absolutely right. What does that tell you? UT fans would hate this. A&M would hate this. Every big program would hate this. The only people who like it are the ones that are fans against the smaller programs. Again, high school is a great in state football system. It's horrible to think that the best and biggest programs across the country would be deprived of regular competition against one another. I can't imagine anything worse for college football. Good for small schools but bad for college football as a whole.
Brando your totally right. Only way I would be okay with a complete starting over of all conferences into regional pods is if you reassign schools Turn FBS into Division 1 (without any stupid A or whatever) with only like 60 schools, the 60 schools that can field decent football programs and could potentially win a title with a good coach, and actually command a market share. Then re order all the other schools down for a number of divisions. Basically instead of having 3 football divisions, make it 4 or 5 with each division more equally representative. You can still have a few games against teams in lower divisions (like you can now), but the pod games matter the most to get a playoffs. Then if really really like, then there can be relagation for the worst teams in a upper division the best teams in the lower division.
http://brett-mcmurphy.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/29532522/33054284 West Virginia filing suit vs. Big East Posted on: October 31, 2011 3:10 pm Edited on: October 31, 2011 3:15 pm West Virginia is filing suit against the Big East Conference so it can join the Big 12 next season, according to a document obtained by CBSSports.com. The Big East requires its members to pay $5 million and provide 27 months notice before it may leave the conference. However, on Friday when West Virginia accepted an invitation to join the Big 12, WVU and Big 12 officials both indicated the Mountaineers would begin play in the Big 12 in 2012-13. In an e-mail to the league’s presidents Monday, Big East commissioner John Marinatto wrote that “we have been advised by West Virginia league council that the University is filing suit against the Big East Conference today (Monday) – presumably to get relief from the withdrawal provision contained in our bylaws.” West Virginia is the latest school to announce it was leaving the Big East along with Syracuse and Pittsburgh to the ACC and TCU to the Big 12. The Big East has a 27-month notification period to leave and Marinatto has said multiple times Pittsburgh and Syracuse can’t leave for the ACC until June 1, 2014. Other league sources have said the Big East has no plans of letting West Virginia leave the league before June 1, 2014 and were surprised the Mountaineers announced they were joining the Big 12 in 2012. TCU had to pay $5 million, but was not required to provide 27 months notice because it left for the Big 12 before it actually began play in the Big East. "We've been a good member of the Big East for a long time," President James Clements told reporters on Friday. "Our University is in discussions with the conference office." Clements said West Virginia has already paid $2.5 million of the $5 million exit fee required to the Big East. He added the remaining amount would be paid on June 30, 2012 – on what the Mountaineers believe will be their final day in the Big East. The Big East’s presidents and chancellors will meet in Philadelphia Tuesday. They are expected to formalize plans to add as many as six schools – Boise State, Navy, Air Force, SMU, Houston and UCF. No schools have received “official invitations” yet, but all have had multiple discussions with Marinatto in recent weeks about joining the league. Last month, Marinatto said that if the Big East grew to 12 football schools, the league still would make Pitt and Syracuse honor the 27-month requirement "even if it meant a 14-team Big East" in 2013. That philosophy hasn't changed, league sources said, which could possibly mean a 15-team Big East, including West Virginia, Pittsburgh and Syracuse, in 2013.
USA Today's take on conferences. http://www.usatoday.com/sports/coll...0-25/dream-conferences-realignment/51022572/1 I say swap out Mizzou and Tulsa with OU and OSU and you've got a pretty sweet setup.
We all know the Longhorns are the hypothetical champions of the universe, it's just too bad they would never actually support a more regional conference or bother playing more local teams (except cream puffs like Rice when they need an easy W). Instead they're off trying to build a Burnt Orange death star piloted by the Pope of Notre Dame or something. Peepee games!
My kind of post right there. Except I would have said champions of the sun instead of universe, clearly.
